The 5 stages

Douggg said:

The person who becomes the Antichrist will go through 5 stages on the way to his destruction. The numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 on the chart shows the transition points through those 5 stages.

1. as the little person, leader over a group of ten EU leaders.

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The 5 stages is just a subjective opinion, but I'll go with it.

He is called a Little Horn (power) because the Last Beast is man, he never passes his kingdom on.

Douggg said:

2. as the prince that shall come into middle east/Israel following the Gog/Magog event.

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He probably follows Gog and Magog but that wat might still be going on at the pre trib. rapture.

Douggg said:

3. as the Antichrist, perceived as the King of Israel messiah by the Jews (for a while).

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This never happens, him being the King over Israel is just your erroneous interpretation my friend. Israel will simply join the E.U. this is how the AC gets political sway, he makes an "Agreement" which is what Israel joining the E.U. would be, an official agreement. When Alaska joined the USA it was via an official agreement (Covenant in Hebrew). Think logically, how could the AC ever conquer a Nuclear Israel swiftly? He couldn't, but if Israel joins the E.U. ad gives up their Nukes, as we would require of any state that joined us, lets say Greenland joined the USA and had Nukes, the authority over them would have to given to the Federal Government of the USA. Likewise the E.U. will demand this authority also. So, my best hunch is the Gog and Magog was sees God killing 5/6 of Gog & Magog's Armies, and this Anti-Christ E.U. President will claim he used a "secret weapon" to help Israel out since Israel could not Nuke the Armies on their own holy mountain. But . God by fire destroys them, just like God made Jesus' path straight, he will do the same with the AC. Also, by wiping out 5/6 of Russia, Turkey and Iran's Armies, that makes the AC path much easier. The 1260 Asteroid will take out the USA via fires and tidal waves on the west coast as the asteroid hits in the Pacific Ocean. Now he is free to go forth conquering.

Douggg said:

4. as the revealed man of sin, end of stage 3, the Jews will reject him as continuing as their King of Israel.

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He will only be revealed when he goes forth Conquering at the 1260 middle of the week. He will never be their King, he is the E.U. President. Did the UK ever consider the E.U. President as their King? Of course not.

Douggg said:

5. as the beast of Revelation 13, of whom the statue image will be made of him and placed on temple mount as the AOD (abomination of desolation).

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Yes, but its the 1290 (day 1230) not the 1335 (day 1185) the 1335 is the day the Two-witnesses show up to turn Israel back unto God. And thus since the AC only goes forth on day 1260, the middle of the week. or 30 days after the 1290 (1230) then the AoD can not be the AC but is instead his sidekick, a Jewish High Priest like unto Jason under Antiochus Epiphanes. Reread Rev. 13 the 2nd Beast gets the people to make an image unto the Beast.

Douggg said:

Matthew 24:29 describes the changes to the sun, moon, stars, that will take place during the sixth seal in Revelation 6. What it will be about is the appearance of the Son of Man - Jesus - to everyone living on the earth.

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True, except the Seals are Prophetic Utterances by Jesus, not actual Events. The Seals all come to pass but only after the Trumps start, thus Trumps 1-4 is ONE EVENT and steroid Impact and Trump #4 is where the6th Seal Prophesy comes to pass.

Douggg said:

The man of sin reveals himself as such by sitting in the temple of God, claiming that he is God.

2Thessalonians2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

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No, that is what Paul surmised in a Letter to the Thessalonians, like Daniel he was npt in the know on those things, he took Jesus words in Matthew 24:15-16 and wrongly interpreted them.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, {whoso readeth, let him understand} (Notice it says STAND, so it is not a person standing, but an IMAGE created that STANDS in the holy place)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Paul was writing letters, not "Thus Saith the Lord Prophetic Utterances. Of course like we are doing here, with each other, we are giving interpretations, and many people on here are wrong, lots of times. Paul gave them his thoughts on what that statement meant. In Rev. 13 some 25-30 years later, John tells us what Jesus/Holy Spirit told him about this, that the False Prophet gets the people (the 2/3 Jews who do not repent) to create am image unto this man the E.U. President IMHO, whom John was told was the last Beast. The 2nd Beast (False Prophet, Jewish High Priest as was Jason under Antiochus) makes the Image at the 1290 (1230) and the AC can not go forth conquering until the 1260 (1260) middle of the week which is 30 days later. As a young Christian it never made sense to me why God allowed the AC to conquer Israel, then told them to flee Judea. But when one understands the AoD is the 2nd Beast, a Jewish High Priest like unto Jason, then it all fits........He forbids Jesus Worship in "his temple" (takes away THE SACRIFICE) and places the AoD which defiles the temple, which means God had to have cleansed the temple, it was defiled when Jesus died, God rent the temple or forsook Israel.

The TIMING FITS when you read Zech. 13:8-9, the 1/3 repent then in the very next vs. in Zech. 14:1 we see the DOTL arrives. In Malachi 4:5-6 we see Elijah is sent back [just] BEFORE the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord. So, Israel repents via the 1335 Blessing (2 Witnesses) and thus the temple is cleansed by the 1/3 Jews going to "their temple" to Worship their Messiah Jesus. The False Prophet High Priest hates this and uses his connections with the E.U. Gov. to impose restrictions on Jesus worship for some made up reason, and he then will place an IMAGE of the E.U. President in the temple at the 1290, this gives the Jews 30 days to flee Judea before the AC goes forth conquering at the 1260 middle of the week events (DOTL).

John and Daniel were given the Prophesies, Paul was called to convert the Gentile Nations.

Douggg said:

The Jews are looking for their messiah (someone they believe as other than Jesus).

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They ARE NOT looking for a Gentile Messiah, the Beast is a Gentile. The 1/3 repent BEFORE the 1290 and 1260, at the 1335. The 2/3 are probably atheists or Orthodox Jews like the False Prophet.

John 5:43 was fulfilled in 67-70 AD. Jesus was speaking specifically to the Pharisees.

Douggg said:

There is no biblical basis that Israel will join the EU. What is you basis for that opinion ?

The covenant to be confirmed in Daniel 9:27 for a 7 year period will be the Mt. Sinai covenant, in the method Moses described in Deuteronomy 31:9-31.

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The word Covenant in Hebrew simply means Agreement. The Agreement will be with the AC and in Dan. 7 we see the 10 horns and Rev. 13 we see it has 7 Heads and 10 Horns.

7 = Divine Completion and 10 = Completion. So, the 10 represents the Complete E.U. reunited as one just like in Rome's day. The 10 horns arises out of the Fourth Beasts Head (Rome) as does the 1 Little Horn who arises amidst the 10 = he's born in the E.U. and Dan. 8:9 mandates he must be born in Greece AND Greece is in the E.U.

Israel CURRENTLY has 7 year agreements with the E.U. under the European Neighborhood Policy, look it up. The stated goal of the E.U. is to advance relationships with everyone in the region, the Israel is a signee and so is Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya and Algeria these are THE MANY of Dan. 9:27, Dan. 8:25 and Dan. 11:40-43. Look it up, its on Wikipedia and elsewhere. Part of the E.U.s stated goals is to maybe one day offer STATEHOOD to some of these nations, to be a part of the E.U. The E.U. currently passes out over 15 Billion Dollars to these nations every 7 years. Now, lets look at Old Rome on a map, and the E.U. + Israel and THE MANY the AC will conquer in Dan. 11:40-43.

Rome in 117 AD



The E.U. as it will look after it conquers Israel and THE MANY in Dan. 11:40-43.



Turkey is not a part of the 7 Year Deals per se, but as Dan. 8:9 shows the Little Horn conquers TOWARDS the East and South or the born in Greece AC conquers from the Northwest, as the E.U. fits that bill also, because Greece is now in the E.U.




See it now? The E.U. + Israel and THE MANY is why the Mortal Wound to the Fourth Beast is HEALED.

Douggg said:

Paul was not implying that man of sin's action to sit in the temple was the abomination of desolation.

You are right about the abomination of desolation's position will be that of standing.

What Paul described is what is called in Daniel 8:13 as the transgression of desolation (TOD). A transgression is an act.

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Paul is referring to Matt. 24:15 and Dan. 9:27. Dan. 8:12-14 is the same event. The 2300 "days" is really 2300 Evening and Mornings or 1150 days.

Douggg said:

No, not that simple as meaning Agreement. In Daniel 9:4, Daniel referred to the Mt. Sinai covenant.

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The Covenant my friend will be exactly what I explained, Israel will join the E.U. In Dan. 9:4 Daniel was just reminding God of his promise to free Israel after 70 years in Babylon.

Douggg said:

So the covenant in Daniel 9:27 is referring to the Mt. Sinai covenant. Required to be confirmed on a 7 years cycle in Deuteronomy 31:9-13.

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God is not dealing in a Covenant He sees as evil now. Those who trust in the Law over the Promise will not be in God's favor. My time is short tonight, gotta run, have a blessed day/night.