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I currently have assurance, but how long will it last?

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I have wavered back and forth between thinking I am a Christian and thinking I am not. I now think I am saved. That is based on some things that occurred this morning, including reading a couple of Private Messages from John. I think I totally trusted Christ and He took me, like I asked Him to. Here's the deal with me: I have both religious OCD and wavering faith. Either one by itself generates severe doubt. The combination of the two has held me in the perfect storm. But now, I can say to my OCD, "Epheshians 1:13-14." I can say to my concern about my wavering faith, "John 1:17." The Ephesians passage says that when I trusted Christ I was sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. The John verse says, "Every good and perfect gift is from above and comes down from the Father of Lights, in Whom there is no variation nor shadow of turning." Biblical doctrine says that Christ saves in a moment and He does not waver. My faith might waver, but He does not. Clinging to those two verses (among others, such as what John pointed out, John 6:37) and to that biblical doctrine, I understand He has me and will not let me go. If I doubt, I can go to some verses and biblical doctrine.
 

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The "Father of Lights...no shadow of turning" passage is James 1:17, not John, as I referenced it.
That put me in mind of the song 'Great is thy faithfulness'.

Will hold you up in prayer.
Romans 8:38.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
Lean not on your own understanding
In all your ways honour Him,
And He will make your path straight

Proverbs 3:5-6

Luke 15:1-37
 
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One would expect someone with new, weal, or uncultivated faith to be uncertain. Christians are to transition from the flesh (selfishness) to love (selflessness) which is Christ-likeness. Assurance grows as you do. Jesus told those that believed in him that if they abode in his word, they would know the truth and the truth would set them free. You might also immerse yourself in Paul's letters.
 
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If I doubt, I can go to some verses and biblical doctrine.
"casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you." (1 Peter 5:7)

Depend on Him. God is the One able to make sure you are with Jesus.

And I would say share with mature Christian people. Real actual people; however, we have ones here in Christian Forums who can help you. But personal sharing as family is included in how Jesus has us developing as God's children.
 
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My son has OCD and I think it along with other anxiety disorders has become more prevelant in recent years. I am not sure why. I think I had some form of OCD when young but was not diagnosed. But have learnt to live with it.

But really OCD I think is a stronger feeling of normal human worry. Its often of the unknown. Not always rational as it can be strongly linked to emotion.

I know Cognitive Behavioural Therapy helps get perspective and context. But I understand the compulisive nature of the thoughts that keep popping into the mind.

But doubts are also natural. Its that it seems to get stuck on repeat sometimes and can be more severe form or worry for some people. Making something bigger than it really is. But that can also be emotions. If someone is more sensitive and worries a lot.

Even talking things out and bouncing your thoughts off others, someone you trust can be helpful like you doing now. Most of the time it makes sense but still there is doubt. But the more you do it the more your mind is retrained to see things as they really are.

Medication also helps. But they say CBT is what helps gets thinking straight.

In saying all that we can as humans and Christians have lots of doubts. I could relate to how you said you sometimes think your saved and then doubt it. Sometimes I feel like I am the Prodigal son twice or three times over lol.

I think its Satan on my shoulder telling me I am not good enough. Especially when I may be feeling unwell or tired or just feeling a bit unhappy. And maybe thats what it is. Doubting we are not good enough. Havn't done something right or good enough. Self loathing and judgement.

But in hindsight doubts made me stronger. It steeled my faith. I think we have to live through the doubts because they are a part of us that has to be grown out of. I don't think you can offload a doubt overnight. So you question and you try this and that and then God is there always at the end waiting.

So its good to acknowledge the doubts. People are worried about mentioning they are not as saved as they feel sometimes. Its ok as this is part of growing as a Christian into Christ.

The disciples had doubts and I am sure they were fighting and worrying and questioning before they were able to stand with Christ. As long as we keep our eyes on the lighthouse in the stormy seas we will get there.

Sometimes it may become a flame flickering and its hard to see. But its still there and thats just our doubts and worries blurring things. But the light is always there and will become bigger as you move through the doubts towards God and that is through Christ the light of the world.

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Assurance depends on where we stake our claim. If we think that it is our faithfulness, our obedience, our emotional connection, etc, that is central to our salvation we will inevitably waver. it is only when we realize that salvation depends not on us, but on Christ, that we can begin to truly have assurance. It is in the letting go, and letting God, that we may have confidence. Though we are faithless, He is faithful.
 
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I needed to read this today. I am having a moment of uncertainty, myself, and came here for assistance.

So many of you sound like me and it's so comforting to know that what I am going through might be a normal part of the journey towards living more like Christ and less like a flawed human.

I was so scared and have found some peacefulness here and I really appreciate the OP for posting their struggle and all the responses.

God bless
 
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