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To be fair to Bonino, he is definitely not part of the cover-up:
FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino was outraged this week during a closed-door White House meeting about the Department of Justice's review of Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking case files, according to multiple sources.

Bongino raised his voice during a discussion with White House chief of staff Susie Wiles before storming out of the meeting, according to two sources close to DOJ leadership. Bongino also exchanged heated words with Attorney General Pam Bondi during the meeting, and the whole ordeal has led him to consider resigning from the FBI, another source said.

Another person with knowledge of the meeting disputed the characterization that Bongino yelled at Wiles or Bondi during the sitdown.

I really hope he doesnt resign. He needs to stay in the fight. Don't cut and run.

We still don't know what are in the files. Speculation that Trump is involved the child cases in about as stupid as it comes. The Biden admin would have released them in a heartbeat if he were.

No, IF there are others being protected, I believe they are foreign dignitaries. But its a wild guess.
 
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Trump? No I think Biden was not releasing them because that is not a normal thing the government does. I think it was the conspiracy theorists who think this is a big deal. The only reason anyone cares about them now is it is one of the few avenues where Trump and his supporters disagree.
So you dont really care and are just trying to poke Trump supporters?
 
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Or is there supposed to be a conspiracy that the democrats are using it to tear the GOP apart or whatever?
It appears this really is the only reason the left cares. If they can help sow chaos they are happy to do so. Maybe we ought to just ignore them since their concern isn't really genuine.
 
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It appears this really is the only reason the left cares. If they can help sow chaos they are happy to do so. Maybe we ought to just ignore them since their concern isn't really genuine.
Sounds like when it comes to this issue there are those on the left who are just basically trolling. So noted.
 
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It appears this really is the only reason the left cares.
Right, because that's all you can come up with? Insults are easier than understanding.

If they can help sow chaos they are happy to do so. Maybe we ought to just ignore them since their concern isn't really genuine.
Projection.

Sounds like when it comes to this issue there are those on the left who are just basically trolling. So noted.
Extreme projection. Classic.
 
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We still don't know what are in the files. Speculation that Trump is involved the child cases in about as stupid as it comes. The Biden admin would have released them in a heartbeat if he were.
The fact that Trump was caught creeping into the dressing room of under-aged females (he even privately bragged about it) does indicate that he was interested. So motive plus opportunity...
 
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Based on how long several people in the government have had access to those files throughout two administrations, it seems unlikely there's anything in them that would lead to an indictment of child abuse. If there is, then Merrick Garland and those running the DOJ when the files were obtained would have a lot of explaining to do.

Have they actually looked through the files? Not sure what the procedure is and whom would be tasked with doing so.
That doesn't seem worth all of the hubbub that's going on over these files. Or is there supposed to be a conspiracy that the democrats are using it to tear the GOP apart or whatever?
You tell me. This was a huge matter of speculation on the conspiratorial fringe. I would not think this would still be a topic were it not for two items. One, it continues to be a pain point for Trump. Two, a lot of fringe individuals are certain it is part of a larger plot. The ongoing denials by top officials while not releasing much of the info is just adding fuel to the fire.
 
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So you dont really care and are just trying to poke Trump supporters?
I did not care before. The continued refusal to address this on Trumps side makes me both curious and it causes me to wonder exactly what it is he does not want released.
 
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You tell me. This was a huge matter of speculation on the conspiratorial fringe. I would not think this would still be a topic were it not for two items. One, it continues to be a pain point for Trump. Two, a lot of fringe individuals are certain it is part of a larger plot. The ongoing denials by top officials while not releasing much of the info is just adding fuel to the fire.
Yes. A reasonable person would ask themselves why Trump would rather have people assume he's a pedophile when he could just release the evidence and clear his name. The MAGA explanation seems to be that Trump is protecting Bill Clinton.
 
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