Is engineering a ‘super’ human being a good idea?

Michie · 2025-11-14T10:04:02-0600

According to reports in The Wall Street Journal, billionaires in Silicon Valley are trying to expand the frontiers of genetic engineering in the eternal quest to create genetically engineered human beings with enhanced intelligence and traits preferred in different cultures.

Editing genes in sperm, eggs and embryos is currently banned in the United States. The current effort by Preventive, a Silicon Valley startup, involves a couple with a genetic abnormality who want to participate in producing a genetically engineered embryo.

Scientists are currently employing technologies for treating genetic birth defects (including edited and inserted DNA after birth, but not before birth).

In fact, scientists and medical ethicists have been calling “for a global moratorium until the ethical and scientific questions get resolved.”

Preventive is the harbinger of other efforts in Silicon Valley and beyond that are pushing all boundaries in the areas of genetic engineering and reproductive technologies. The stated goal is one of attempting to cure genetic diseases and genetic birth defects. The stated goal is to produce babies “who are free of genetic disease and resilient against illnesses.”

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Is engineering a ‘super’ human being a good idea?

When we start trying to engineer human beings, we are in way over our heads ethically and morally

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The Barbarian · 2025-11-14T12:40:47-0600

The concept of repairing a defective gene in sperm or eggs is not intrinsically bad. But there are some huge issues, and they aren't merely ethical or moral (as important as those issues are). We aren't smart enough to know what such tinkering could cause. "Repairing" alleles that cause genetic disorders might well lower population intelligence, for example.

We should proceed very slowly, and learn from animal studies.

johansen · 2025-11-14T12:49:59-0600

friend of mine overheard a conversation in the spiritual realm to the effect that:
We (the powers and principalities) don't need a free society to advance the human race any further, we can get the information we need from their dna to identify who can do what.

i mentioned this online somewhere and it gets downvoted: "he didn't hear anything, that's the plot to the movie Gattaca!"

anyhow..
its going to happen, the USA just won't be the first due to moral concerns.

2PhiloVoid · 2025-11-14T12:53:58-0600

Michie said:
According to reports in The Wall Street Journal, billionaires in Silicon Valley are trying to expand the frontiers of genetic engineering in the eternal quest to create genetically engineered human beings with enhanced intelligence and traits preferred in different cultures.

Editing genes in sperm, eggs and embryos is currently banned in the United States. The current effort by Preventive, a Silicon Valley startup, involves a couple with a genetic abnormality who want to participate in producing a genetically engineered embryo.

Scientists are currently employing technologies for treating genetic birth defects (including edited and inserted DNA after birth, but not before birth).

In fact, scientists and medical ethicists have been calling “for a global moratorium until the ethical and scientific questions get resolved.”

Preventive is the harbinger of other efforts in Silicon Valley and beyond that are pushing all boundaries in the areas of genetic engineering and reproductive technologies. The stated goal is one of attempting to cure genetic diseases and genetic birth defects. The stated goal is to produce babies “who are free of genetic disease and resilient against illnesses.”

Continued below.

Is engineering a ‘super’ human being a good idea?

When we start trying to engineer human beings, we are in way over our heads ethically and morally

www.christianpost.com

Trans-humanism is here to stay............................. unfortunately. At least until the Lord decides to stop their foolishness, like He's done before.

johansen · 2025-11-14T12:58:34-0600

2PhiloVoid said:
Trans-humanism is here to stay............................. unfortunately. At least until the Lord decides to stop their foolishness, like He's done before.

i'm not sure its foolishness at all.

yes, there will be unforeseen consequences. being born on this earth is bad enough, but being born and finding out at say, 20-40 years of age that you're sterile because your parents did some genetic experimentation on you to make you smarter, well, you're going to have to go take anger management classes...

I'm actually surprised I didn't get totally banned for a mild but interesting argument with an old man on reddit who felt personally offended in a thread where I predicted that the ever increasing number of vaccines are going to cause significant unforeseen consequences on the order of 100 to 200 years from now.

2PhiloVoid · 2025-11-14T13:04:35-0600

johansen said:
i'm not sure its foolishness at all.

yes, there will be unforeseen consequences. being born on this earth is bad enough, but being born and finding out at say, 20-40 years of age that you're sterile because your parents did some genetic experimentation on you to make you smarter, well, you're going to have to go take anger management classes...

I'm actually surprised I didn't get totally banned for a mild but interesting argument with an old man on reddit who felt personally offended in a thread where I predicted that the ever increasing number of vaccines are going to cause significant unforeseen consequences on the order of 100 to 200 years from now.

Personally, I assess all forms of Trans-humanism as another form of religion, and they are 'designed' to compete with the Christian faith.

Of course, as with most things, I await the entrance of the futuristic brainiacs who think they're going to prove me wrong.

The Barbarian · 2025-11-14T14:52:13-0600

johansen said:
I'm actually surprised I didn't get totally banned for a mild but interesting argument with an old man on reddit who felt personally offended in a thread where I predicted that the ever increasing number of vaccines are going to cause significant unforeseen consequences on the order of 100 to 200 years from now.

Vaccines don't change genomes. There is the issue of epigenetics, which can last for a generation or two, but don't persist long-term. So no.

timf · 2025-11-14T16:40:55-0600

Eugenics was popular in the 1930s. It didn't work out well for Germany.

The Barbarian · 2025-11-14T18:06:15-0600

timf said:
Eugenics was popular in the 1930s. It didn't work out well for Germany.

Darwinists like Reginald Punnett showed that the entire idea was mathematically flawed. It would take hundreds of years of Draconian control to remove harmful recessives from the population.

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Is engineering a ‘super’ human being a good idea?

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