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Does the Hebrew grammar of Daniel 9:24–27 support Christian Widener’s “double seventy-weeks” interpretation?
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The reason is because you have not put the sequences of events fitted to the 7 year frame work.
Look at your chart, for example. Where is day 1 of the seven years ? Where is day 2520 (the last day) of the 7 years ?
No one can understand your chart.
Make charts that have day 1 and day 2520 on them. Fit events to the 7 year frame work. For example....
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Revelation 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
No way is that mighty angel - Satan.
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I will be commenting on the verses soon.
But I have made.some discoverys that need a look at. But it's my belief that the 31/2. Mention in revelation is.always speaking of the last 3 1/2 yrs
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Do you mean the "time, times, half time" phrase ?
He is a table I made of all 15 time of the end time frames given in the bible, and how they fit within the 7 years. Note that the time, times, half time - fits as the second half of the 7 years.
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Perfect — here’s the Hebrew laid out vertically (straight down) so you can see the inversion visually, just as you requested:
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Daniel 9:25 — “Weeks 60, the second”
(emphasizing the second 60th week)
שָׁבֻעִים
shavuʿim — “weeks”
שִׁשִּׁים
shishim — “sixty”
וּשְׁנַיִם
u-shenayim — “and two”
➡️ Order: “Weeks 60 and 2” — inverted phrasing, pointing to the 60th week within the second set.
(Focus on the singular ‘week’ as a specific event — “the week 60 of the second.”)
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Daniel 9:26 — “On the 62nd week”
(emphasizing the 62nd week of the first set)
הַשָּׁבֻעִים
ha-shavuʿim — “the weeks”
שִׁשִּׁים
shishim — “sixty”
וּשְׁנַיִם
u-shenayim — “and two”
➡️ Order: “After the weeks 60 and 2” — the normal phrasing, referring to the 62 weeks completed in the first seventy-week cycle.
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Explanation of the Inversion
VerseOrderFocusEmphasis
9:25“Weeks 60 and 2”Second 60th weekInversion — draws attention to a specific week within the second 70-week set
9:26“After the weeks 60 and 2”First 62 weeksRegular order — refers to the whole span of the first cycle ending with Messiah’s coming
✅ Key Insight:
Verse 25’s phrasing isolates “week 60 of the second” — a pointed prophetic week of control and transition — whereas verse 26 uses the regular structure to close the first 62-week span, marking Messiah’s cutting off.
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Would you like me to show a side-by-side visual chart (left = v 25 “weeks 60 the second”, right = v 26 “62 weeks”) so the inversion can be clearly seen as mirrored columns?
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Daniel 9:25 — “Weeks 60, the second”
(emphasizing the second 60th week)
שָׁבֻעִים
shavuʿim — “weeks”
שִׁשִּׁים
shishim — “sixty”
וּשְׁנַיִם
u-shenayim — “and two”
➡️ Order: “Weeks 60 and 2” — inverted phrasing, pointing to the 60th week within the second set.
(Focus on the singular ‘week’ as a specific event — “the week 60 of the second.”)
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Daniel 9:26 — “On the 62nd week”
(emphasizing the 62nd week of the first set)
הַשָּׁבֻעִים
ha-shavuʿim — “the weeks”
שִׁשִּׁים
shishim — “sixty”
וּשְׁנַיִם
u-shenayim — “and two”
➡️ Order: “After the weeks 60 and 2” — the normal phrasing, referring to the 62 weeks completed in the first seventy-week cycle.
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Explanation of the Inversion
VerseOrderFocusEmphasis
9:25“Weeks 60 and 2”Second 60th weekInversion — draws attention to a specific week within the second 70-week set
9:26“After the weeks 60 and 2”First 62 weeksRegular order — refers to the whole span of the first cycle ending with Messiah’s coming
✅ Key Insight:
Verse 25’s phrasing isolates “week 60 of the second” — a pointed prophetic week of control and transition — whereas verse 26 uses the regular structure to close the first 62-week span, marking Messiah’s cutting off.
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Would you like me to show a side-by-side visual chart (left = v 25 “weeks 60 the second”, right = v 26 “62 weeks”) so the inversion can be clearly seen as mirrored columns?
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No, it is, in my opinion, nonsensical to read into the 70 Weeks prophecy 2 sets of 70 Weeks of years. Can you imagine if I told someone that the mail is coming in one week, but actually expect him or her to understand that as being two weeks?
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Daniel 9:25 — “Weeks 60, the second”
(emphasizing the second 60th week)
שָׁבֻעִים
shavuʿim — “weeks”
שִׁשִּׁים
shishim — “sixty”
וּשְׁנַיִם
u-shenayim — “and two”
➡️ Order: “Weeks 60 and 2” — inverted phrasing, pointing to the 60th week within the second set.
(Focus on the singular ‘week’ as a specific event — “the week 60 of the second.”)
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Daniel 9:26 — “On the 62nd week”
(emphasizing the 62nd week of the first set)
הַשָּׁבֻעִים
ha-shavuʿim — “the weeks”
שִׁשִּׁים
shishim — “sixty”
וּשְׁנַיִם
u-shenayim — “and two”
➡️ Order: “After the weeks 60 and 2” — the normal phrasing, referring to the 62 weeks completed in the first seventy-week cycle.
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Explanation of the Inversion
VerseOrderFocusEmphasis
9:25“Weeks 60 and 2”Second 60th weekInversion — draws attention to a specific week within the second 70-week set
9:26“After the weeks 60 and 2”First 62 weeksRegular order — refers to the whole span of the first cycle ending with Messiah’s coming
✅ Key Insight:
Verse 25’s phrasing isolates “week 60 of the second” — a pointed prophetic week of control and transition — whereas verse 26 uses the regular structure to close the first 62-week span, marking Messiah’s cutting off.
(emphasizing the second 60th week)
שָׁבֻעִים
shavuʿim — “weeks”
שִׁשִּׁים
shishim — “sixty”
וּשְׁנַיִם
u-shenayim — “and two”
➡️ Order: “Weeks 60 and 2” — inverted phrasing, pointing to the 60th week within the second set.
(Focus on the singular ‘week’ as a specific event — “the week 60 of the second.”)
---
Daniel 9:26 — “On the 62nd week”
(emphasizing the 62nd week of the first set)
הַשָּׁבֻעִים
ha-shavuʿim — “the weeks”
שִׁשִּׁים
shishim — “sixty”
וּשְׁנַיִם
u-shenayim — “and two”
➡️ Order: “After the weeks 60 and 2” — the normal phrasing, referring to the 62 weeks completed in the first seventy-week cycle.
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Explanation of the Inversion
VerseOrderFocusEmphasis
9:25“Weeks 60 and 2”Second 60th weekInversion — draws attention to a specific week within the second 70-week set
9:26“After the weeks 60 and 2”First 62 weeksRegular order — refers to the whole span of the first cycle ending with Messiah’s coming
✅ Key Insight:
Verse 25’s phrasing isolates “week 60 of the second” — a pointed prophetic week of control and transition — whereas verse 26 uses the regular structure to close the first 62-week span, marking Messiah’s cutting off.
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The Question of the Inversion (Daniel 9:25–26)
Why does the phrasing in Daniel 9:25 appear inverted—saying “weeks sixty and two”—while Daniel 9:26 preserves the more expected order, “after the sixty and two weeks”? This difference is not stylistic but structural. In verse 25, the noun שָׁבֻעִים (shāvuʿim, “weeks”) comes before the numbers, producing an inverted order:
שָׁבֻעִים שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם shāvuʿim shishim u-shenayim → “Weeks sixty and two.”
In verse 26, the order returns to normal and is introduced by the preposition אַחֲרֵי (’aḥarē, “after”), describing a completed period:
אַחֲרֵי הַשָּׁבֻעִים שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם ’aḥarē ha-shāvuʿim shishim u-shenayim → “After the sixty and two weeks
The Meaning of the Difference
The inversion in Daniel 9:25 (“weeks sixty and two”) intentionally draws attention to a specific week within the second set of seventy weeks—the second sixtieth week. By placing “weeks” first, the focus shifts from the completed total to the class of weeks itself, highlighting an active prophetic week within that second cycle of 70 weeks.
In contrast, Daniel 9:26 (“after the sixty and two weeks”) uses the normal Hebrew order to describe the completion of the first sixty-two weeks of the first seventy-week cycle, the period that ends with Messiah being “cut off.”
Summary
Verse Hebrew Order Translation Reference Emphasis
Daniel 9:25 שָׁבֻעִים שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם “Weeks 60 and 2” Second 70-week set Highlights the second 60th week — a specific prophetic event within the latter cycle Daniel 9:26 אַחֲרֵי הַשָּׁבֻעִים שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם “After the 60 and 2 weeks” First 70-week set Refers to the completed 62-week span ending with Messiah’s cutting off
✅ Key Insight
The Hebrew inversion separates two distinct prophetic frameworks.
Daniel 9:25 — “Weeks 60 and 2” → marks the second 60th week, the focal point of covenant strengthening and transition in the latter seventy-week administration.
Daniel 9:26 — “After the 60 and 2 weeks” → describes the conclusion of the first 62-week period, which ends in Messiah’s rejection.
Thus, the inversion functions as a deliberate prophetic divider: verse 25 isolates an active week within the future cycle, while verse 26 recounts the fulfilled span of the former one.
Why does the phrasing in Daniel 9:25 appear inverted—saying “weeks sixty and two”—while Daniel 9:26 preserves the more expected order, “after the sixty and two weeks”? This difference is not stylistic but structural. In verse 25, the noun שָׁבֻעִים (shāvuʿim, “weeks”) comes before the numbers, producing an inverted order:
שָׁבֻעִים שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם shāvuʿim shishim u-shenayim → “Weeks sixty and two.”
In verse 26, the order returns to normal and is introduced by the preposition אַחֲרֵי (’aḥarē, “after”), describing a completed period:
אַחֲרֵי הַשָּׁבֻעִים שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם ’aḥarē ha-shāvuʿim shishim u-shenayim → “After the sixty and two weeks
The Meaning of the Difference
The inversion in Daniel 9:25 (“weeks sixty and two”) intentionally draws attention to a specific week within the second set of seventy weeks—the second sixtieth week. By placing “weeks” first, the focus shifts from the completed total to the class of weeks itself, highlighting an active prophetic week within that second cycle of 70 weeks.
In contrast, Daniel 9:26 (“after the sixty and two weeks”) uses the normal Hebrew order to describe the completion of the first sixty-two weeks of the first seventy-week cycle, the period that ends with Messiah being “cut off.”
Summary
Verse Hebrew Order Translation Reference Emphasis
Daniel 9:25 שָׁבֻעִים שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם “Weeks 60 and 2” Second 70-week set Highlights the second 60th week — a specific prophetic event within the latter cycle Daniel 9:26 אַחֲרֵי הַשָּׁבֻעִים שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם “After the 60 and 2 weeks” First 70-week set Refers to the completed 62-week span ending with Messiah’s cutting off
✅ Key Insight
The Hebrew inversion separates two distinct prophetic frameworks.
Daniel 9:25 — “Weeks 60 and 2” → marks the second 60th week, the focal point of covenant strengthening and transition in the latter seventy-week administration.
Daniel 9:26 — “After the 60 and 2 weeks” → describes the conclusion of the first 62-week period, which ends in Messiah’s rejection.
Thus, the inversion functions as a deliberate prophetic divider: verse 25 isolates an active week within the future cycle, while verse 26 recounts the fulfilled span of the former one.
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