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concretecamper
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I don't have an issue, it's not a title I have used nor particularly care about. But if you're going to complain about a term, at least take the time to understand how those who use it understand it rather than just assuming that they mean something nefarious.
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Are you challenging that statement?
So where in the Bible do you find the word "Trinity"? . . .or "sovereign," for that matter?
Biblical truth is not necessariy presented in one simple statement.
So, you might start with sorting out what Jesus said:
The Son is subject to the Father, for the Son is sent by the Father in the Father's name (Jn 5:23, 36, 43).
The Spirit is subject to the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Father in the Son's name (Jn 14:26).
The Spirit is subject to the Son as well as the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Son as well as the Father (Jn 15:26, 16:7, 14:26, Ac 2:33).
If you can rectify Jesus' above revelation of the Trinity with Jesus being anything but the second person of the Trinity, feel free to show us how.
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Agreed. . .which was Biblically refuted. . .which refutation (post #86) you cannot address.
And that's a good thing. . .because your assertion would be heresy.
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Feel free to address its refutation in post #86, following:
Are you challenging the statement that Jesus is the "second person" of the Trinity" because it is not stated in the NT?
So where in the Bible do you find the word "Trinity"? . . .or "sovereign," for that matter?
Biblical truth is not necessariy presented in one simple statement.
So, you might start with sorting out what Jesus said:
The Son is subject to the Father, for the Son is sent by the Father in the Father's name (Jn 5:23, 36, 43).
The Spirit is subject to the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Father in the Son's name (Jn 14:26).
The Spirit is subject to the Son as well as the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Son as well as the Father (Jn 15:26, 16:7, 14:26, Ac 2:33).
If you can rectify Jesus' above revelation of the Trinity with Jesus being anything but the second person of the Trinity, feel free to show us how.
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I'm sorry that you took offense when offense was never offered. Care to add to the topic?
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