Do you believe a Christian can no longer be a believer?

eleos1954 said:

• A person can be "permanently lost" if they persistently reject the Holy Spirit's guidance, which is considered the unforgivable sin (blasphemy of the Holy Spirit). This is a deliberate, willful, and ongoing rejection of the path to salvation.

The lost can be found.

God does not passively wait for people to come to Him. Rather, He actively seeks out those who are lost until they are found. The shepherd leaves the 99 sheep to go after the one that is lost, demonstrating God's persistent and personal pursuit.

ALL have sinned ... all start out in a "lost condition" ... that can be changed by the power on the Holy Spirit.

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NewLifeInChristJesus said:

You tried to dodge the question, but your answer cannot be hidden. You do know that promoting the doctrine of sinless perfection is not allowed on this site, right?

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Abraham1st said:

Do you mean in your brain, that the doctrine of godliness cannot be allowed.

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NewLifeInChristJesus said:

You tried to dodge the question, but your answer cannot be hidden. You do know that promoting the doctrine of sinless perfection is not allowed on this site, right?

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• Romans 6:12-14: "Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions... presenting your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace".
• Psalm 119:11: "I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you".
• James 1:14-15: "But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death".
• 1 John 3:9: "No one who is born of God practices sin, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God".

• Believers are called to strive for holiness and a life free from sin, not by their own power, but by the power of the Holy Spirit working in them.
• Jesus' command: Jesus' command to "go and sin no more" is seen as a call to a new life in Him, where one is no longer controlled by sin.

eleos1954 said:

• Romans 6:12-14: "Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions... presenting your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace".
• Psalm 119:11: "I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you".
• James 1:14-15: "But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death".
• 1 John 3:9: "No one who is born of God practices sin, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God".

What is sin? Transgression of the Law .... I'm not claiming sinless perfection (only Jesus is perfect) .... we are called to strive for overcoming sin and that can only be done through the Holy Spirit working in a person.

• Believers are called to strive for holiness and a life free from sin, not by their own power, but by the power of the Holy Spirit working in them.
• Jesus' command: Jesus' command to "go and sin no more" is seen as a call to a new life in Him, where one is no longer controlled by sin.

We are called to turn away from the temptation of sin .... not live in it.

The Bible says that turning away from sin, also known as repentance, is a command from God that leads to forgiveness and a renewed relationship with Him. Key themes include an act of turning back to God with one's whole heart to receive forgiveness, the promise that sins will be wiped away, and the concept of living a new life free from the enslavement of sin.

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DragonFox91 said:

I believe,....

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eleos1954 said:

• Romans 6:12-14: "Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions... presenting your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace".
• Psalm 119:11: "I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you".
• James 1:14-15: "But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death".
• 1 John 3:9: "No one who is born of God practices sin, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God".

What is sin? Transgression of the Law .... I'm not claiming sinless perfection (only Jesus is perfect) .... we are called to strive for overcoming sin and that can only be done through the Holy Spirit working in a person.

• Believers are called to strive for holiness and a life free from sin, not by their own power, but by the power of the Holy Spirit working in them.
• Jesus' command: Jesus' command to "go and sin no more" is seen as a call to a new life in Him, where one is no longer controlled by sin.

We are called to turn away from the temptation of sin .... not live in it.

The Bible says that turning away from sin, also known as repentance, is a command from God that leads to forgiveness and a renewed relationship with Him. Key themes include an act of turning back to God with one's whole heart to receive forgiveness, the promise that sins will be wiped away, and the concept of living a new life free from the enslavement of sin.

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NewLifeInChristJesus said:

So you understand and agree with the point I originally made about 1 Corinthians 10:13 (coppied below for convenience)?

12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it. (1 Co 10:12–13)​

Do you see in 1 Co 10:13 that every time a person succumbs to temptation that it reprepresents a failure to take the way of escape that God provided?​

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