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Who are the Illuminati?

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Belief that a ‘corrupt elite is secretly running the world’ is one of the longest-running and most widespread conspiracy theories of our time

It has become a “byword for a corrupt elite” ruling the world, said indy100, and supposedly boasts Beyoncé, Madonna, Jay-Z and Donald Trump among its members. The name “Illuminati” is “so powerful that it has begun to rule TikTok”, becoming last year’s “most talked-about counter-mainstream idea”.

The story is “pretty compelling” – but “that’s all it is, a story”. And it is one that the “stars themselves have shrugged off or even mischievously fuelled”. While most of the rumours surrounding the Illuminati and its members are fiction, the group was at one time real – though its influence was not nearly as vast and enduring as modern conspiracists claim.



How did the Illuminati start?​

The idea of an “illuminati”, meaning “enlightened” or “illuminated”, has been around since the 15th century, wrote author and academic Chris Fleming. Early groups included the Spanish Alumbrados (the “illuminated”), who believed people could “attain direct communion with God” and thereby gain spiritual enlightenment without traditional worship or the sacrament. Alleged sympathisers include St Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit order, who was questioned by the Inquisition in 1527 over possible links.

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An interesting ending to an informative article concerning the origins of the supposed Illuminati ending with a couple paragraphs about AI-


More than 2,000 participants discussed a conspiracy they believed with an AI system called “DebunkBot”, knowing that they were talking to a chatbot. About 20% of those in the “treatment” group showed a “reduced belief in conspiracy theories” after a three-round back-and-forth conversation, as the bots were “not perceived as having an ‘agenda’”, making them seem “more trustworthy”. Scientists found that the AI chatbots were mostly accurate, too.


Although chatbots can “promote misinformation or conspiracy”,; if their underlying data is wrong, or biased, chatbots can “put together an argument”, which is more persuasive and effective against fake beliefs than “a simple recitation of facts”. The “personalised approach”, with counterarguments “relevant to their beliefs”, made participants “feel heard”, said Psychiatrist.com. One participant who believed in the Illuminati conspiracy said the AI had “shifted their perspective for the first time”, adding that the response “made real, logical sense”.
 
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Belief that a ‘corrupt elite is secretly running the world’ is one of the longest-running and most widespread conspiracy theories of our time

It has become a “byword for a corrupt elite” ruling the world, said indy100, and supposedly boasts Beyoncé, Madonna, Jay-Z and Donald Trump among its members. The name “Illuminati” is “so powerful that it has begun to rule TikTok”, becoming last year’s “most talked-about counter-mainstream idea”.

The story is “pretty compelling” – but “that’s all it is, a story”. And it is one that the “stars themselves have shrugged off or even mischievously fuelled”. While most of the rumours surrounding the Illuminati and its members are fiction, the group was at one time real – though its influence was not nearly as vast and enduring as modern conspiracists claim.



How did the Illuminati start?​

The idea of an “illuminati”, meaning “enlightened” or “illuminated”, has been around since the 15th century, wrote author and academic Chris Fleming. Early groups included the Spanish Alumbrados (the “illuminated”), who believed people could “attain direct communion with God” and thereby gain spiritual enlightenment without traditional worship or the sacrament. Alleged sympathisers include St Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit order, who was questioned by the Inquisition in 1527 over possible links.

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It started as some bankers that the Pope didn't want to pay back.

Of course back then, the church was still entangled with state governments and had theological applications it does not have today.
 
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It started as some bankers that the Pope didn't want to pay back.

Of course back then, the church was still entangled with state governments and had theological applications it does not have today.
Did you read all the history of it?
 
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Did you read all the history of it?
No, since this is the conspiracy theory section, that's just what I heard. Though this theory is concerning something in the 1300s.
 
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No, since this is the conspiracy theory section, that's just what I heard. Though this theory is concerning something in the 1300s.
What I meant was… did you read the article posted on the op? I was just wondering what people’s thoughts are on it. I pretty much believe it myself. What caught my attention was AI walking conspiracy theorists out of the rabbit hole… which I found intriguing. I don’t trust AI as far as I can throw it at this point in time.
 
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What I meant was… did you read the article posted on the op? I was just wondering what people’s thoughts are on it. I pretty much believe it myself. What caught my attention was AI walking conspiracy theorists out of the rabbit hole… which I found intriguing. I don’t trust AI as far as I can throw it at this point in time.
The article seems in line with standard Illuminati conspiracy theory ideas. Nothing really new since the 1990s version that was prior to AI.
 
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? How so?
I just recall how the illuminati was a big deal in the 1990s and the kind of stuff they talked about. It didn't sound all that different. The celebrities and politicians and all of hollywood were part of it apparently.

It's just a theory that is popular because the subconscious looking for a reason why certain people get paid to act like a fool, and they don't.

"it seems the whole world is against me" sentiment causes belief in an overarching boogieman. It could be any other name. Illuminati is probably chosen just because it starts with the world "ill."
 
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