Men now surpass women in church attendance, especially among Gen X, millennials: Barna

bèlla · 2025-10-11T20:58:56-0500

Aaron112 said:
And it is clear in The Bible how to rule. The Instructions from the Creator are plain, and neither men nor women obey.

Since you were quick to answer would you mind sharing how you’re employing the scriptures? Please include your vocation and the territory He assigned to you for oversight.

~bella

bèlla · 2025-10-11T21:00:54-0500

timothyu said:
Did He not say from beginning to end to put His will first?

Of course and our perspective on the kingdom are aligned and you know that. If we do as He instructs the question I posed to @Aaron112 will answer itself with specific directives. And you know that too. ;-)

~bella

Aaron112 · 2025-10-11T21:03:08-0500

Trust Jesus. Believe His Word. Simple and Truth.

No, your perspective on the kingdom are not aligned with mine, and likely not with the other one , but he may speak for himself.
I've avoided quoting or replying to the errors posted because I do not have the inclination nor the time to do so, nor have I seen anything effective or accomplished by doing so.

Aaron112 · 2025-10-11T21:04:45-0500

timothyu said:
Yes, serve the Father, not man's concepts of what churches or life should be.

That while true does not match the original nor the continued use and purpose of any forum I know of that is active.

bèlla · 2025-10-11T21:07:21-0500

Aaron112 said:
Trust Jesus. Believe His Word. Simple and Truth.

No, your perspective on the kingdom are not aligned with mine, and likely not with the other one , but he may speak for himself.
I've avoided quoting or replying to the errors posted because I do not have the inclination nor the time to do so, nor have I seen anything effective or accomplished by doing so.

I never said it was and you misread my comment. And your statement is conceptual and devoid of application. Repeating the words is easy. Applying them in demonstrative ways is another matter. But you’re welcome to your opinion. I don’t need your agreement.

~bella

Aaron112 · 2025-10-11T21:09:20-0500

bèlla said:
our perspective on the kingdom are aligned and you know that.

Not likely.

bèlla · 2025-10-11T21:20:42-0500

Gregory Thompson said:
So women came for a while "looking for a man" realized there were none, or just incels not eligible. And so now there are more men than women.

Women were expected to marry and reproduce. The culture was patriarchal. Their entrance into the workforce coupled with feminism altered the atmosphere.

Gregory Thompson said:
Furthermore, there are those who have evolved past the traditional reading of the bible and live differently.

They’ve moved nearer to their origin in the garden. Man was given a directive and that includes everyone.

Gregory Thompson said:
Since a lot of the churches are rooted in the colonialism role (i.e. increase the population) .. does this mean a bunch of churches are just unravelling?

All ideologies need adherents for furtherance. If we center the question on tradition the answer has been provided. Women are moving away from traditional roles and opening themselves to new opportunities. For some that means a life devoid of marriage and children. For others it means explorations in leadership including entrepreneurs. Some feel compelled to teach and offer instruction and support for women, mothers, etc. The paths are numerous because our knitting differs.

~bella

RDKirk · 2025-10-11T22:54:50-0500

bèlla said:
Women were expected to marry and reproduce. The culture was patriarchal. Their entrance into the workforce coupled with feminism altered the atmosphere.

They’ve moved nearer to their origin in the garden. Man was given a directive and that includes everyone.

All ideologies need adherents for furtherance. If we center the question on tradition the answer has been provided. Women are moving away from traditional roles and opening themselves to new opportunities. For some that means a life devoid of marriage and children. For others it means explorations in leadership including entrepreneurs. Some feel compelled to teach and offer instruction and support for women, mothers, etc. The paths are numerous because our knitting differs.

~bella

you seem to be saying that women are moving into the roles traditionally held by men...
...which we've already discussed as being the wrong roles from a Christian perspective.

Paidiske · 2025-10-11T22:57:00-0500

RDKirk said:
you seem to be saying that women are moving into the roles traditionally held by men...
...which we've already discussed as being the wrong roles from a Christian perspective.

A Christian perspective, perhaps. By no means the only possible Christian perspective.

bèlla · 2025-10-11T23:16:28-0500

RDKirk said:
you seem to be saying that women are moving into the roles traditionally held by men...
...which we've already discussed as being the wrong roles from a Christian perspective.

Where do you get that idea? Every example I shared is independent. They’re not standing in pulpits. They built profitable entities for their work.

~bella

bèlla · 2025-10-11T23:22:30-0500

Paidiske said:
A Christian perspective, perhaps. By no means the only possible Christian perspective.

I shared something recently in the friendship forum and I’d love to have your feedback. We can discuss it on the mind thread where you post if you’d like. I’ve been tracking this since the pandemic and witnessed several iterations but the latest has a different energy and I see something great ahead.

What's on your mind? Friendship Court edition.

Regular family time? Eating dinner together? No, sorry, that's not the answer. I've already given a hint somewhere in this subforum.

www.christianforums.com

~bella

ralliann · 2025-10-12T00:03:27-0500

bèlla said:
Women were expected to marry and reproduce. The culture was patriarchal. Their entrance into the workforce coupled with feminism altered the atmosphere.

They’ve moved nearer to their origin in the garden. Man was given a directive and that includes everyone? Nuns, have been doing that since forever

All ideologies need adherents for furtherance. If we center the question on tradition the answer has been provided. Women are moving away from traditional roles and opening themselves to new opportunities. For some that means a life devoid of marriage and children. For others it means explorations in leadership including entrepreneurs. Some feel compelled to teach and offer instruction and support for women, mothers, etc. The paths are numerous because our knitting differs.

~bella

Women are to be celibate?

bèlla · 2025-10-12T00:05:51-0500

ralliann said:
Women are to be celibate.

What are you referring to in relation to your comment?

~bella

Paidiske · 2025-10-12T00:06:58-0500

bèlla said:
I shared something recently in the friendship forum and I’d love to have your feedback. We can discuss it on the mind thread where you post if you’d like. I’ve been tracking this since the pandemic and witnessed several iterations but the latest has a different energy and I see something great ahead.

What's on your mind? Friendship Court edition.

Regular family time? Eating dinner together? No, sorry, that's not the answer. I've already given a hint somewhere in this subforum.

www.christianforums.com

~bella

I think I understand the basic concept. My immediate reaction is that these things can be very seasonal. There are times in our lives when we have space - time, energy, mental capacity - for more, and times when that's less true. (Work demands, parenting, marriage and extended family, all of that can change what we have to give to other things).

I think I find a lot of the same sort of benefit in different groups; a book group, or a community choir, or the like. The connection to other people (through a dynamic other than work) is really healthy for me.

None of that's particularly about gender roles, though. All of us - men and women - benefit from developing our gifts and skills.

ralliann · 2025-10-12T00:24:18-0500

bèlla said:
What are you referring to in relation to your comment?

~bella

You spoke of not marrying, not having children.

bèlla · 2025-10-12T00:29:40-0500

ralliann said:
You spoke of not marrying, not having children.

That doesn’t mean they’re fornicating and I didn‘t get into that. Just because a woman is single doesn’t mean she‘s having relations. I was abstinent for years before I returned to the Lord and my tenure is extensive. Everyone isn’t ruled by their loins.

~bella

ralliann · 2025-10-12T00:41:06-0500

bèlla said:
That doesn’t mean they’re fornicating and I didn‘t get into that. Just because a woman is single doesn’t mean she‘s having relations. I was abstinent for years before I returned to the Lord and my tenure is extensive. Everyone isn’t ruled by their loins.

~bella

So yes you are saying celibacy. Not everyone wants to go without having children, either.

bèlla · 2025-10-12T00:54:54-0500

Paidiske said:
I think I understand the basic concept. My immediate reaction is that these things can be very seasonal. There are times in our lives when we have space - time, energy, mental capacity - for more, and times when that's less true. (Work demands, parenting, marriage and extended family, all of that can change what we have to give to other things).

That’s certainly true but this isn’t relegated to single women alone and they’ve revisited the theme every year in different iterations. There’s a hunger for growth that keeps rearing its head. It isn’t the usual. They’re going all out and have done so for years.

Paidiske said:
None of that's particularly about gender roles, though. All of us - men and women - benefit from developing our gifts and skills.

Morning and evening routines, winter arcs, that girl, curriculums and related trends are predominately female.

~bella

bèlla · 2025-10-12T00:55:20-0500

ralliann said:
So yes you are saying celibacy. Not everyone wants to go without having children, either.

No, you’re saying that. I never mentioned sex.

~bella

ralliann · 2025-10-12T01:06:28-0500

Yes you did. You used the word "relations". And fornication.

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