Sept 23rd Rapture

Dave G. said:

People usually don't understand the chatter of demons in their lives, their space. It's mistaken as spiritual and obviously to them , even myself at times, to be of the Lord.. When it may not be of Him at all ! I learned some years ago now that as truly born again believers, we can take authority over the non Godly spirits at work, by the name Jesus. Consider it a sifting out. You can command anything not of Jesus to depart by the name and blood of Jesus, and you would be amazed at the peace and quiet that takes over your space, be that dwelling, room, or just around you as you walk. It also doesn't hurt now and then to re-affirm out loud that you belong to Jesus Christ, bought at a price..

I'm not big on following man and putting a bunch of trust in man, but follow Christ. I've never gotten much from books written by other believers, just the bible, it's the diamonds and rubies of our lives. As some preachers have said, we find nuggets in there. . In most, most readings, maybe not all, you're bound to find one or two.

As to this Joshua guy who supposedly heard from the Lord these dates he set. Well obviously it was not the Lord he heard from, this leaves a bad source. He needs to do some sifting out. But the funny thing is ( I never watched his videos but did look at the comments under them), his followers are blind. After two fails they still write in about what wonderful men of God these were in the video, one being Joshua obviously. That's troubling, that these folks have no discernment.

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Servus said:

The thing with the rapture most don't seem to take into consideration is they could end up dead at any time. Millions of people died from the time the guy reported his vision up to Sep 23rd. That's what we should be prepared for. That today might be our personal end time. Cardiac arrest, brain aneurysm, traffic accident, a bad fall... etc etc etc.

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Delvianna said:

They dont always leave. Remember Paul was told by God his grace was sufficient and taught about the armor of God for a reason. Stay alert.

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Matthew 17:21​

Dave G. said:

By in large they leave in my experience, these being in oppression. However, you're correct for possession or affliction, some of those do not leave but by prayer and fasting. At least according to Jesus in Matthew 17:21

Matthew 17:21​

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However this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.” AMP. [But this kind of demon does not go out except by prayer and fasting.]” AMPC

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Servus said:

The thing with the rapture most don't seem to take into consideration is they could end up dead at any time. Millions of people died from the time the guy reported his vision up to Sep 23rd. That's what we should be prepared for. That today might be our personal end time. Cardiac arrest, brain aneurysm, traffic accident, a bad fall... etc etc etc.

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*LILAC said:

I had a huge change in life as well and my spiritual discernment really increased after that. My house literally went quiet and my husband and kids and even other family members said it was a noticeable difference. Let me tell ya, I was hearing footsteps, my furniture being shifted around, the kids were hearing video game music - all at night! That's when the devil is always at work. No more of that since. You really have to stand firm in your faith. Pray over and about everything. Ask God about everything!

Today's the 10th and still no rRrRapture! Well, I have a wedding to go to this afternoon, so maybe I'll be Rrraptured to a wedding at a wedding!

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Delvianna said:

Prayer and fasting is for possession, not oppression which is the verse you are referencing. Verse 18 says, "Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, and he was healed at that moment." There isn't a single instance in the bible that says driving out a demon for anything other than possession works. I'm not negating that your experiences you see a difference, but what I'm saying is in my own experiences, they just get sneaky and aren't so apparent but that doesn't mean they left, it just means they got quieter.

The ONLY thing that drives a demon away that is backed up in scripture is this:
James 4:7
"Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you."

Submitting to God is obedience, and resisting temptation, resisting his attacks, makes him flee. That doesn't say telling demons to leave in the name of Jesus makes them flee if it is not a possession case. There is a difference between possession and everything else.

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Dave G. said:

I don't disagree with that. In all of what I've said there is submission, closing open doors, and scripture. But in my experience it takes directing toward the oppressing spirit. The change is immediate in my experience. In other words, it's addressing there is a spirit. And you must be of the Lord. Otherwise you get, Jesus I know, Paul I know but who are you ! In other word, no change.

Let me ask, Delvianna, have you lived this out in your life, where there was obvious if not blatant spiritual attack ? Or presence maybe?

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Dave G. said:

People usually don't understand the chatter of demons in their lives, their space. It's mistaken as spiritual and obviously to them , even myself at times, to be of the Lord.. When it may not be of Him at all ! I learned some years ago now that as truly born again believers, we can take authority over the non Godly spirits at work, by the name Jesus. Consider it a sifting out. You can command anything not of Jesus to depart by the name and blood of Jesus, and you would be amazed at the peace and quiet that takes over your space, be that dwelling, room, or just around you as you walk. It also doesn't hurt now and then to re-affirm out loud that you belong to Jesus Christ, bought at a price..

I'm not big on following man and putting a bunch of trust in man, but follow Christ. I've never gotten much from books written by other believers, just the bible, it's the diamonds and rubies of our lives. As some preachers have said, we find nuggets in there. . In most, most readings, maybe not all, you're bound to find one or two.

As to this Joshua guy who supposedly heard from the Lord these dates he set. Well obviously it was not the Lord he heard from, this leaves a bad source. He needs to do some sifting out. But the funny thing is ( I never watched his videos but did look at the comments under them), his followers are blind. After two fails they still write in about what wonderful men of God these were in the video, one being Joshua obviously. That's troubling, that these folks have no discernment.

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Delvianna said:

I walk in the Lord, I am obedient to his word, but when the enemy comes knocking and tries to change my mind, gives me false visions and tries to drum up whatever they can to change my mind or break my faith in Christ, I have had experiences where calling on the name of Jesus seems like it's gone, but they are still there, still whispering their influence. Just because they stop chucking things in the room, or stop giving false visions, doesn't mean they left. This is why Paul says to take every thought captive:
2 Corinthians 10: 4-5
"The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."

There are the possibility of having quite a few voices in your head. Gods, angels that follow God, angels that don't follow God and your own. We will constantly fight against principalities of the air until we die. This is a war and a war is won by following all of scripture, and putting on the armor of God because it's there for a reason. Influence is more powerful than their overt attacks because influence is underhanded and goes under the radar.

I once had a fallen angel come to me and pretend to be Elijah sent by God to help me with scripture. When they talk to you telepathically, it sounds like your own voice. Deception is a mighty weapon they use and they are smart and more clever than people realize or give them credit for. Through my experiences, God taught me by scripture what works, what appears to work and what doesn't.

My warning is, don't think that just because you feel peace, they aren't whispering in your ear when you think they aren't there. Be more aware of the thoughts that come into your head because there are a lot that aren't from you. You could be thinking about what's for dinner and deciding what to eat as your focus is on that, but something else comes into our mind out of no where. That is not your brain on ADD, that is a possibility if it being a spiritual influence.

The scripture teaches that followers of Christ ARE going to be attacked by the enemy. It's not always sin as Job is a great example.

1 Peter 5:8-9
"Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings."

So we need to be careful what we say and teach others because attacks are going to happen no matter what and we need to be aware, what to do and how to handle it. Paul says "resist", James says "resist", Peter says "resist" and that is what we should do. Follow the scriptures because again, there is no where in the scriptures that says we get rid of the enemy by claiming the name of Jesus apart from possession.

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Gregory Thompson said:

This brings up an important point.

If people didn't support this form of false prophesying, the people making videos saying God said, when He said nothing ... would lose their motivation.

Whether that motivation be monetization of their youtube channel or being the centre of attention .. God knows. And the fruit tells, once again the faith is dishonored because people flock to fortunetellers who call themselves prophets and the prophets say things, because it is what people want to hear.

So, we can demonize the fortunetellers for doing divination, but what about the broader issue? There are a vast number of people who want to hear messages like this ... this points to a lack of proper discipleship in this generation.

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