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Let the Left Do What They Want To Do Here In America

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Could I pray at an abortion clinic?
That is a good question. I'm not sure how the Left would feel about people praying at abortion clinics. Would the prayerful be too intimidating for people going to the clinic? When I made this scenario, I was expecting Christians to "go Amish" and break away from the outside world. Remember all sorts of abortions would now be legal and we as Christians would just stay out of the world's issues. Sounds like copping out but no resistance to their policies.
 
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Open up the borders and let the world flood in. I'm sure the US has room a few hundred million Chinese. All those Chinese lessons in Duolingo will come in handy.
Then no doubt you are against this: Trump saying 600,000 Chinese students could come to the US draws MAGA backlash

'President Donald Trump seemingly caught his loyal conservative base off-guard and sparked backlash by saying he would allow 600,000 Chinese students into American universities.

“I hear so many stories about ‘We are not going to allow their students,’ but we are going to allow their students to come in. We are going to allow it. It’s very important — 600,000 students.”

And from here: Party People: What Kind of Students Join the CCP?

'We found that around 75 percent of university students had applied for Party membership at some point in their college career.'

So Trump wants around 450,000 members of the CCP to come to the US. But you're from Switzerland where restrictions are quite tight: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-university-applies-stricter-measures-to-chinese-students/88290467

'In October, ETH Zurich, Switzerland’s top technical university, tightened its admissions criteria for masters and PhD programs in certain science and technology fields. It justified the move as complying with Swiss laws to counter international espionage.

The change will affect applicants from internationally sanctioned countries, including Iran, Afghanistan and Russia. Most impacted, however, will be Chinese nationals. According to ETH Zurich, it has enrolled more than 1,300 Chinese students since 2023 – twice as many as in 2018.'

Which policy do you support?
 
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Guessing from your reply, I probably used the wrong word, "peacemakers". I was trying to explain how I thought God would react to just giving in to the views of the Left. Would He be angry that we were not fighting for opposing positions to some of the more controversial issues or would He not mind no opposition to the controversial issues and would be happy that we humans weren't fighting with each other. I'll try to choose my words more carefully next time, sorry.
I thought it was a great word to use in this context as a peacemaker covers all aspects of true adherence to love, the mandate given to all Christians by Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
We should all ask ourselves whether or not how we react to issues and others is in fact " loving ". Then follow up with " what would Jesus Christ of Nazareth do"?

Until then, it is impossible to have an honest discussion. If you dare, name one controversial issue in detail and let's debate it.

Thanks for sharing.
 
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Do you make over $400,000 per year? That was Kamala's most recent plan.
Right wing people just want to protect the multi million dollar business they'll someday own.

At the same time, some of them imagine "the left" to be this monolithic monster that will do everything to ruin all they hold dear.

With that thinking, any kind of atrocities can be rationalised.
 
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it would collapse just like baltimore's finances and school situation.
Is it really that bad? We used to live in Siver Springs, MD and visit Baltimore's Iner Harbor quite a bit. I hope that place is still beautiful like I remembered it :).
 
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Open up the borders and let the world flood in. I'm sure the US has room a few hundred million Chinese. All those Chinese lessons in Duolingo will come in handy.
I don't know if that would happen. Alot of people are starting to really like their own countries over coming to the US. But remember, we are all immigrants from other countries. Our multi-cultured atmosphere is pretty great, I feel. It brings a smile to my face when I see the different nationalities living together and enjoying each other's lives. Although, trying to learn Chinese would be a problem for me. I hear it is a difficult language to learn but I'm sure I will learn the basics :) .
 
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What would happen (and I kind of have a good feeling the outcome) if we just caved to the demands of the Left.
We need to first stop the slander pitting "us" against "them" under the labels of "left" against "right". What would happen if slander was not believed upon? If we want the lies to stop controlling us, then we just have to NOT believe in slander. Devil=accuser/slanderer.
 
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What would happen (and I kind of have a good feeling the outcome) if we just caved to the demands of the Left. Let the values and morals of Kamala Harris, Charles Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Hilary Clinton, George Soros, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama, Ophrah Winfrey, Bill Clinton, James Carville, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Al Sharpton, Jasmine Crockett, some of our local liberals such as EssentialSaltes, Hans Blaster, Pommer, DaiseyDay, BCP1928, NxNw, iluvatar5150, TropicalWinds, Larniavc, and don't forget Bradski and so on just run the government. Tell them, "You guys are in charge; just leave us alone. We won't bother you, don't bother us. Of course, I know the first they will do is "bother us" probably by raising our taxes through the roof, possibly seizing our land, abolishing places of worship but let's let them have their way.

How far will it go? Will they make our country better to live in? There is no arguing with these people in anyway, they don't hear us. So just let them do what they want to do. Will they make a fairly livable place to live like Canada, Germany, France, Sweden and China or will there be a point where they will just start destroying themselves such as happened during the French Revolution or the beginnings of the Soviet Union? I don't know. All I do know is I'm tired of their constant badgering. I know this is a very farfetched idea because I know most conservatives minded people have great hope for our country that it would continue on the way the founding fathers envisioned it but I just say imagine it. Would it be good or disastrous.

My next question would then be, "Would God forgive us for allowing us to let this happen or would he consider us peacemakers, we let the Left do what they want to do. They cannot say we are holding them back anymore, we've compromised everything.
Would the blue states still have to prop up the economies of the red states?
 
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Do you make over $400,000 per year? That was Kamala's most recent plan.


Absent eminent domain being pertinent, that would be illegal/unconstitutional

That would be illegal/unconstitutional
But imagine though, conservatives didn't put up any resistance in allowing liberals to change laws and other things in America to what they would really want them to be, would the new liberal government honor those things you mentioned above or would they change them too. Even though socially I fight for many conservative policies, it's getting to the point where I don't even know if it is worth fighting so much. My main concern is how will God be with my decision? I more than anything want to do God's will but would I be.

It sounds to me that you believe that the liberal government would stick to the Constitution but they would be more for the poor and downtrodden verses the rich and corporate wealth. I won't argue with you on that, I actually feel the same way. I am fiscally liberal but I do not support socialism or communism where they take from the rich and transfer it to the poor. I feel our world is at a point where all workers could get at least a very good living wage or more so all can survive. Those who work harder and do more deserve to have more money but those who cannot work harder and do more should still be able to live a very good life.
 
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Would the blue states still have to prop up the economies of the red states?
If the new liberal government felt that need then so be it (to a certain extent). As I mentioned in another post, I am all in favor of helping those who are not well off but the help shouldn't be massively taken away from those who have worked hard and have done alot more to accumulate that wealth. So, the red states in the end would/should have enough money for their economies that they would not need money from the blue states.
 
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I feel our world is at a point where all workers could get at least a very good living wage or more so all can survive. Those who work harder and do more deserve to have more money but those who cannot work harder and do more should still be able to live a very good life.
Could? Yeah, but that doesn't make the boss richer.
 
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What would happen (and I kind of have a good feeling the outcome) if we just caved to the demands of the Left.
We'd reduce the deficit and expand civil rights, as we've always done. That's a good start.
 
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I have absolutely no doubt that if they completely had their way I would be forced into the gulag or put to death, probably death by torture, and I am 100% serious about that.
You're silly. The GOP are the ones arresting US citizens these days.
 
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You're silly. The GOP are the ones arresting US citizens these days.
Does being a US citizen exempt you from being arrested? As far as I know US citizens who break the law have always been arrested
 
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