Three ICE detainees shot, 2 dead, at ICE facility in Dallas; suspected shooter committed suicide.

rjs330 said:

Too many are missing the justice part.

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I would think the spirit of this sentiment would not want anyone to get away with breaking the law.

rjs330 said:

Mercy isnt about allowing people to break the law without consequence.

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It makes sense that understanding, Grace, and Mercy would all walk congruent with one another. Legalism seems to think that people were made to serve the law rather than the law was made to serve people.

rjs330 said:

Its making sure the consequences are appropriate and giving people a chance. Thats why we send them back home instead of putting them in prison for tge rest of their lives.

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Of course, it would not be the asylum seeker's fault that the system is broken and therefore the laws are being broken due to an underfunding of the system. Since the law supports accommodating asylum seekers with the understanding that they are fleeing some form of persecution in their own countries, it makes no sense to break the intent of the law and send them back to their own country.

rjs330 said:

Then you should do more research into the criminals that have been caught. We also have MS13 and the cartels in America as well as Tren de Agua here. Some very violent people. Human trafficking and drug traffickers.

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We're not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about immigrants like dreamers who have built productive lives that contribute to the community. And I'm talking about asylum seekers who genuinely seek asylum And I'm talking about a president who says those types of immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country, and who also calls people who do not accept his version of reality far left lunatics.

rjs330 said:

Me too, thats why I pointed out that you don't.

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How exactly is my suggestion that you don't experience the dehumanizing oppression that immigrants do, proof that I don't think in dichotomies?

rjs330 said:

The radical left is just as bad as the radical right when it comes to scattering the sheep. Often they are the wolves dressed as sheep.

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I agree that radicalism in general would imply NOT gathering towards the center, but they look to me like sheep that have been scattered. That's why I said I'm avoiding hypocritical judgment.

rjs330 said:

Then we have an obligation to take him out by any means necessary. Because you know where Hitlers actions went correct? It started out with words and led to actions. In fact many on the left believe the actions have already started.

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The spiritual battle is fought in the hearts and minds of people who are spiritually minded. It may turn out that the worldly carnal winners are the spiritual losers. The bottom line is God sees what's happening, and He knows what He's doing.

BCP1928 said:

....certainly does make the parolees into violent criminals.

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I think you meant DOESN'T, not DOES.

childeye 2 said:

Legalism seems to think that people were made to serve the law rather than the law was made to serve people.

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Yes, and thats not what is happening here.

childeye 2 said:

Since the law supports accommodating asylum seekers with the understanding that they are fleeing some form of persecution in their own countries, it makes no sense to break the intent of the law and send them back to their own country.

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That's why they have to prove their case. The majority can't. They should be shipped home. If they can, then they should be allowed to stay.

rjs330 said:

Yes, and thats not what is happening here.

That's why they have to prove their case. The majority can't. They should be shipped home. If they can, then they should be allowed to stay.

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Why can’t we just accept them as immigrants?

Our population is diminishing, we’ll soon need immigrants, otherwise, we won’t have enough people to keep everything running.
Then the world will watch as we topple from the pinnacle of the economic world and plummet towards ignominy.
But at least we didn’t compromise.

childeye 2 said:

I'm talking about immigrants like dreamers who have built productive lives that contribute to the community.

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Irrelevant. The laws are written to allow good people in and that they have to prove that before they come. The laws are not written to allow everyone to come in and then sort it out later. Obey the laws.

childeye 2 said:

And I'm talking about asylum seekers who genuinely seek asylum

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The majority of them do not meet the requirements.

childeye 2 said:

And I'm talking about a president who says those types of immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country,

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Those arent rhe ones hes referring to.

Here's the what he said:

"That’s what they’ve done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world."

He also clarified his remarks on Truth Social.

asserting on Truth Social that "illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation. They’re coming from prisons, from mental institutions — from all over the world.”

Now I know its not nice language and Trump has tendencies not to be precise. But he has used this type of language when talking about criminals and rapists who are coming over rhe border. Which of course we have learned is true. There are murderers and rapists and other criminals, traffickers etc coming over the border. If YOU arw not referring to those people in your comments the Trump isnt referring to nice illegals in his, especially when clarifying.

So let's just get off rhe bandwagon here.
There are decent people coming as well as bad people coming. But ALL if them rhat are coming illegally are coming illegally regardless. And they should be sent back if caught no matter how long they've been here. This is not a olley olley oxen free country. No country is.

childeye 2 said:

How exactly is my suggestion that you don't experience the dehumanizing oppression that immigrants do, proof that I don't think in dichotomies?

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I shared why.

childeye 2 said:

The bottom line is God sees what's happening, and He knows what He's doing.

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Yes he does. And he wants us to not ignore the weightier measures of justice and mercy.

I have to wonder how ICE / police didn't search the gun person before detaining them. I don't believe this at all.

childeye 2 said:

I'm talking about immigrants like dreamers who have built productive lives that contribute to the community.

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Irrelevant. The laws are written to allow good people in and that they have to prove that before they come. The laws are not written to allow everyone to come in and then sort it out later. Obey the laws.

childeye 2 said:

And I'm talking about asylum seekers who genuinely seek asylum

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The majority of them do not meet the requirements.

childeye 2 said:

And I'm talking about a president who says those types of immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country,

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Those arent rhe ones hes referring to.

Here's the what he said:

"That’s what they’ve done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world."

He also clarified his remarks on Truth Social.

asserting on Truth Social that "illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation. They’re coming from prisons, from mental institutions — from all over the world.”

Now I know its not nice language and Trump has tendencies not to be precise. But he has used this type of language when talking about criminals and rapists who are coming over rhe border. Which of course we have learned is true. There are murderers and rapists and other criminals, traffickers etc coming over the border. If YOU arw not referring to those people in your comments the Trump isnt referring to nice illegals in his, especially when clarifying.

So let's just get off rhe bandwagon here.
There are decent people coming as well as bad people coming. But ALL if them rhat are coming illegally are coming illegally regardless. And they should be sent back if caught no matter how long they've been here. This is not a olley olley oxen free country. No country is.

childeye 2 said:

I think you meant DOESN'T, not DOES.

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My goodness, you are right. Thanks for pointing that out--though it again makes me wonder why Conservatves think it DOES.