Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

Chesterton said:

You misspelled "neofascists".

Even if I agreed with this, do you not realize it's a compliment to Republicans?

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But not to the Christian right. But neoliberal is what I meant.. Neoliberalism is authoritarian, but it is an authoritarian economic system. Fascism is an authoritarian political system. As far as I can tell, Trump is trying for something different. Democratic neoliberals are globalists--think Bill Clinton and his NAFTA--but Trump, having stolen neoliberal influence and campaign money from the Democrats--wants to be a nationalistic neoliberal. He seems to be making heavy weather of it now, who knows if he will succeed. So far he has kept the working class divided and distracted with the culture war--that's what he uses the Christian Right for. But that won't last. Pretty soon the working class will realize that he means to do no more for them than the Democrats did. I'm all for bread and circuses, but the glitter goes off the circus when there is no bread.

rambot said:

Trump being forced to take responsibility for his actions always has had a history od getting his ire up. And fair point why should he take responsibility for anything? Nothing bad is ever his fault.

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I dont think that's unusual at all for any politician. I mean I can't think of many politicians of any stripe saying they were responsible for anything negative.

rambot said:

Actually it's vengeance. It's not a righteous holy war against those who've slightest him.

There's a difference.

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There may be some if that, sure. But there is also a justice side of it too. Gaining justice for wrong doing of the parties involved. When faced with what hes been under by the actors involved I think there is a legitimate call for justice against the wrong doers.

rambot said:

It is ALWAYS rhe democrats fault.
Even trumps behaviour now is democrats fault.

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Well in this case it generally is. It generally wasn't the Republicans doing all those things to him. It has been their non-stop attacks on him that has fueled things. So yes, some of the stuff thats going down certainly is on them.

rambot said:

"I didn't HAVE TO use well over 200 executive orders in 5 months to imitate a dictator but the democrats MADE ME do it."

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While its true that he issued a LOT of executive orders, so many of them were needed to put a stop to things immediately or institute things immediately. Using your power that was granted to you is not dictatorial. Presidents have been doing that for a long time. Sure, not to his extent, but you can't give that power to the president and then complain when he uses it. The largesse of the use isnt relative, because no one put a limit on it.
I don't like so many executive orders because they don't carry the weight of legislation. The next president can come in and just end them and set up their own. I'm fine with orders, but they can't be just orders. We need legislation to actually put the force of law behind those things where they would apply. Of course rhere are many orders where force of legislation would NOT and should not apply. Such as orders governing the executive branch.

rambot said:

This is how America's ideals fall apart.

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It depends on the ideals you think are falling apart. I think our ideals are doing okay over all where government is concerned and its functions.

I would argue that many of our ideals have fallen apart a while ago and it had nothing to do with Trump.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

Stop trying to deflect...it IS true, as you yourself admitted. Stop trying to define the terms of it. It is historically true in a historical context.

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We all agree that the Democratic Party had been the “party of slavery” and the basis for the KKK, (that’s why we read history, to learn facts that we can all (more-or-less) agree upon), like how yesteryears’ problems seemed to be instigated by conservatives not wanting to share the freedom with others that they had.

Republicans are “allowed” to be liberals, still, not that there are any, but the party is perfectly comfortable with them existing, far away from the levers of power.

ViaCrucis said:

So in your mind opposing fascism is fascist? You should say that to brave men who gave their lives defending freedom in the Pacific and Europe during WW2. I'm sure that'll go over great.

Any other American heroes you want to insult?

-CryptoLutheran

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There’s two versions of fascism being discussed:

1. Society is getting “too free”, people are “deciding” to be the opposite-sex and that’s so foreign that it has to be “bad”. We didn’t used to have to think about such people and now they’re traipsing down our thoroughfares. While everyone is allowed to be free, that freedom ought to be more comfortable for everyone (and we don’t just mean white people), though they’re there too!

We need to only be as free as we need to be, too much freedom is clearly not working as our prison population is near the highest, (ironically enough), if we support the President in all of his endeavors then surely he’ll bring a reign of bliss, once we’re done with the “dirty work”! Keeping the guns was a great idea!


2. The President of the United States has assured us that there are “enemies from within” and he’s going to “deal with them” and will do that, whether we want him to or not, what a guy!

Who gets to decide who’s an “enemy”, Trump?

Sure, let’s each trust this man with our lives.

BCP1928 said:

But not to the Christian right. But neoliberal is what I meant.. Neoliberalism is authoritarian, but it is an authoritarian economic system. Fascism is an authoritarian political system. As far as I can tell, Trump is trying for something different. Democratic neoliberals are globalists--think Bill Clinton and his NAFTA--but Trump, having stolen neoliberal influence and campaign money from the Democrats--wants to be a nationalistic neoliberal. He seems to be making heavy weather of it now, who knows if he will succeed. So far he has kept the working class divided and distracted with the culture war--that's what he uses the Christian Right for. But that won't last. Pretty soon the working class will realize that he means to do no more for them than the Democrats did. I'm all for bread and circuses, but the glitter goes off the circus when there is no bread.

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And nobody’s talking about the Epstone files, neither!

Pommer said:

And nobody’s talking about the Epstone files, neither!

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Trump says that there's bigger things to worry about.