Clare73
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"Convincing" is not the criteria for God's truth in Ro 5:14, 17, 18-19, whereSpiritual death is the result of sin. Physical death is natural, since mankind was barred from the tree of life. Don't get physical and spiritual death mixed up. Paul is talking about spiritual death in this whole argument from ch. 3 to 8. Infants who die in infancy are welcome in heaven because they have not corrupted themselves, thus they are innocent. Again, the "imputed sin" argument is unconvincing.
all those of Adam are condemned by the sin of Adam imputed to them (Ro 5:14, 17), just as
all those of Christ are redeemed by the righteousness of Christ imputed to them (Ro 5:18-19).
Study Ro 5:14, 17 (which imputed sin, v.17, is the pattern, v.14, for the imputed righteousness of the one to come; i.e., Jesus of Nazareth).Ok, so you don't interpret it literally. You think it's figurative language. That's your prerogative. But again, it's an argument based on the premise of imputed sin. I'm trying to find out what Paul's meaning is, as opposed to what people think he meant.
It is our nature (with which we are born) that makes us "objects of God's wrath" (Eph 2:3); i.e., "by nature, objects of wrath."Those that are by nature objects of God's wrath are those walking according to the sons of disobedience.
All the sons of Adam are sons of disobedience through their inherited fallen sinful nature.
Why would an infant rattlesnake in my backyard where my children play, which snake doesn't even have rattlers yet, be killed by me?How can an infant who has not even had a chance to commit sin be included in this wrath?
It's not God's job to convince you, it's your job to believe God in his word written.Again, the "imputed sin" argument requires that you assume it to be true. Honestly, I don't really want to continue a debate with you, since you aren't using accepted methods of exegesis. And don't say I'm not either, because I'm the one asking the question - I WANT to believe, but can't, if the argument is not convincing.
And that belief/faith is a gift of the Holy Spirit (Php 1:29, 2 Pe 1:1, Ac 13:48, 18:27, Ro 12:3).
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