And that’s the problem with assuming. I used the world “strictly” to qualify my statement. The government taking the main role of providing charity through entitlement programs does not preclude the churches to provide charity. I stated in my previous post that some of the largest charities are from Christian churches.
Never had I said that. You are once again assuming that just because I debated your incorrect analysis of the restoration of land by Israel every 50 years that I somehow are opposed to entitlement programs.
Here, I’m going to surprise you. I am for universal health care. I don’t follow the liberal playbook of calling everything I don’t like “evil” though.
I am an immigrant from Cuba and arrived as a child with only the one suitcase that we were allowed to take. My parents worked their fingers to the bone to give me and my brother the best upbringing possible so don’t get me going on the shortfalls of socialism and communism. Spare me the “evils” of capitalism. If this country is so bad then why do we have an immigration problem?
Sorry guy but being a "better option than a central american coutry" isn't not something to puff your chest about.
If my family could make it everyone else can to.
That's where you're wrong.
1) You said "your parents worked theri fingers to the bone to give my brother the best upbringing possible". Do you know how many children do NOT have that priviledge? There's plenty of American kids who don't have that...and it IS a priviledge.
2) If your parents could work that hard, they also had their health. Lucky them! Do you know how many children are burdenned with parents who are physically, mentally or emotionally unwell? That takes a toll and children too and having healthy parents is another privledge.
If we sat together and talked about your upbringing I would guarantee that we could find other points of priviledge too.
3) Migrant parents, IMHO will ALWAYS Be hard workers (mine were as well). It's also a priviledge to have parents who instill values like that. Many don't have that either.
I'm not saying these things to make you feel bad or that you don't deserve it; that's irrelevant. I'm saying it so you can appreciate that even in your situation, there are plenty of people who are FAAAAAR behind you guys.
Anyone in this country has the opportunity to grow and make as much money as they want. But they have to have the desire to make decisions that advances their position. Anyone can go into any community college and get a free education using the Pell grant and other economic help programs. They can even get a job at the school to help with their expenses. I know this because I taught community college for a bit.
Hold on. Are you suggesting (I'm not American so I'm asking for clarity)....the Pell grant can get you post secondary schooling COMPLETELY FOR FREE...and you are saying ANYONE can access that? because I didn't know that to be true. And if you don't qualify for those grants to those in extreme poverty and you have to get a student loan, that is a handicap....
Anyone below the poverty line can get food stamps and snap.
There are cuts here.
Cuts cuts cuts.
All schools provide lunches for children.
Not free. Who pays? Plenty of stories of kids who can't get cause they can't afford it....
and when someone tries to help?
Lunch lady fired for giving student free meal refuses offer to be rehired
And thoughts on Trump cutting these budgets?
There are programs to help people get a job.
Neurodivergence is a thing and some people struggle mightily with getting AND THEN ALSO KEEPING a job.
Cuts here.
There are programs that allow people to get clothes and other essentials. There is also a large underground black market that buys entitlement program benefits, like food stamps, from the beneficiaries.
The programs are there but people abuse them.
People abuse every program. That doesn't make the program bad; it means you need more punishment. Keeping in mind the amount of abuse that was happenning at the corporate level. IT DWARVES what poor people are "taking" from you.
Go fight the GOOD battle. Punch UP...not down.
As I stated before, I have no problems with entitlement programs but only for those that really need it.
Well, those programs are designed to be given to those who really need it. But either way, we seem to always seen a lot of side comments like this when these types of incidents are very rare. And yet the companies and third party groups who work with these entitlement programs will commit fraud in the millions and get just a "finger wag".
I am an independent because I can’t stand the drama and non action of both parties in the US. Both parties have gone to the extreme so no one benefits and there is no possibility of compromise. If you want change to happen then get off your far left liberal high horse and start voting people in that are more toward the center where maybe communication and compromise might be possible.
I don't know Via that great but I don't think he identifies as "far left".
Either way, most of the programs you are using as examples of ways that the US helps the poor are LEFT IDEAS that LEFT leaning government support and properly fund and that this and other subsequent Republican governments will continues to chip away at so that their billionaire buddies can pay less taxes. So, if you say you like those programs (since you cite them as you do in this thread), I would guess that you want them properly funded right?