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This feeling that I'm not really a convert

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LOL, hear me out.

This is not a negative post, but sometimes I wonder if I'm truly a convert or am someone whose Catholicism was simply dormant in me for so many years of my life until I realized that I "needed to back to my roots" and get confirmed.

My very first memories of religion are when my mom had sent me to Catholic school "for the education." I only stayed there for four years, but I was always sad that I couldn't partake in what the other kids were doing in their faith, but I loved my mom and obeyed her.

I never quite knew what the faith meant until I started studying it more, and decided to be confirmed, but sometimes I ask myself am I truly a convert or was it just dormant in me until I realized I wanted to finish off what I started in childhood.

Technically speaking I'm a convert but theoretically? Who knows.
 

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The devil will try to derail your faith. Keep steadfast in prayer and the sacraments. I can feel a force trying to pressure me to skip Mass, but I press on and double down in prayer.
 
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The devil will try to derail your faith. Keep steadfast in prayer and the sacraments. I can feel a force trying to pressure me to skip Mass, but I press on and double down in prayer.
I agree with what you said but I think my post was misconstrued as a negative post, lol. :)
 
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The devil will try to derail your faith. Keep steadfast in prayer and the sacraments. I can feel a force trying to pressure me to skip Mass, but I press on and double down in prayer.
Amen. Keep praying and trust in Christ!
 
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I think I understand. When were you Baptized? For it is from that point that you were a member of Christ's Church whether you knew it or not. I wonder if many who call themselves converts, might actually be reverts? From the catechism...

1265 Baptism not only purifies from all sins, but also makes the neophyte "a new creature," an adopted son of God, who has become a "partaker of the divine nature," member of Christ and co-heir with him, and a temple of the Holy Spirit.

1272 Incorporated into Christ by Baptism, the person baptized is configured to Christ. Baptism seals the Christian with the indelible spiritual mark (character) of his belonging to Christ. No sin can erase this mark, even if sin prevents Baptism from bearing the fruits of salvation. Given once for all, Baptism cannot be repeated.

1273 Incorporated into the Church by Baptism, the faithful have received the sacramental character that consecrates them for Christian religious worship. The baptismal seal enables and commits Christians to serve God by a vital participation in the holy liturgy of the Church and to exercise their baptismal priesthood by the witness of holy lives and practical charity.

I think we sometimes forget how powerful the Sacraments are or maybe do not understand fully. The Church has been focusing on a Eucharistic revival and I wonder if maybe we also need a Baptism revival?

Maybe for many, instead of saying 'welcome Home', we should be saying 'welcome back Home' :)
 
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I think I understand. When were you Baptized? For it is from that point that you were a member of Christ's Church whether you knew it or not. I wonder if many who call themselves converts, might actually be reverts? From the catechism...



I think we sometimes forget how powerful the Sacraments are or maybe do not understand fully. The Church has been focusing on a Eucharistic revival and I wonder if maybe we also need a Baptism revival?

Maybe for many, instead of saying 'welcome Home', we should be saying 'welcome back Home' :)
You know, that a good question but I think she was baptized during Easter vigil when she entered the Church. If that’s the case, I think her attendance at Catholic school planted a seed that grew in time.
 
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I don't think it matters either way if you were a "convert" or a "dormant Catholic". What does matter is that you're Catholic now.

I think God's policy in getting people into the church is "whatever works". He doesn't care and I wouldn't be worried about it either if I were you.

In my case one of the means he used was an argument with a Protestant pastor. I'd been resisting joining the Catholic Church but after that I thought "What the heck - I'd better make the move".

There was more to it than that, but it was one of the factors leading up to my becoming Catholic.

Not that long ago I was talking to the couple whose home we used when I doing my RCIA. They said to me "We didn't think you'd go through with it! You asked so many questions!!" But then they added "But you're the one who stuck around and did things."

God doesn't care. A psychiatrist I used to see mainly for spiritual reasons in the told me he had a 'double whammy' as part of his conversion. This discussion came up because I'd mentioned my own 'double whammies' (like a breath going through you in waves from head to foot), and he was the one who said "So you had a double whammy?".

It turned out he'd been running around an oval as a young bloke wondering if he should join the Catholic Church or not, when God clobbered him with a 'double whammy'. I presume he mentally asked "Should I join the Catholic Church?" and he got hit.

God will use anything. In your case it might have been latent dormancy as a future Catholic. So what? Who cares?
 
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Because I think Michie once said that converts can be given the cold shoulder, and if I'm more than just a convert, what harm could that be?
They are by some but not all.
 
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Because I think Michie once said that converts can be given the cold shoulder, and if I'm more than just a convert, what harm could that be?
You’re a full Catholic. Period. Trust in God’s mercy and tell Satan to go back to hell!
 
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Your position is to be based on Scripture. Not emotion. Not culture. Not the opinions of those who might be further down the path, than you, with our Eternal Father.

I encourage you to put on the audio Bible at bedtime.

BibleGateway.com has an audio Bible (See navigation below) with a timer feature.

Within a web browser on your phone, visit www. BibleGateway.com
(no need to install an app).

NAVIGATION

At BibleGateway.com
1. Tap on the main menu [three horizontal lines, top-left corner of browser]
2. Main menu expands to display a sub menu.
3. Tap on "READ THE BIBLE"
4. "READ THE BIBLE" expands to display a sub menu.
5. [Bottom of sub menu] tap on "Audio Bibles"
6. You may need to scroll down an inch, tap on "NIV Dramatized" [a drop-down list under the text 'LISTEN TO THE BIBLE"] change it to "NIV by George W. Sarris"
7. Beneath "NIV by George W. Sarris" change the book from Genesis to Colossians.
8. Beneath the book, tap the white button with text "Start Passage" within the blue box (button).
7. A new browser tab opens.
8. Beneath the transport buttons (vertical lines and triangle combinations) is a clock with "Set Timer" to the left of the clock. Tap on it.
9. A list of time durations is displayed, tap on "2 hours"
10. Immediately above the "Set timer" option, tap on the right-pointing triangle to begin playing.

Put it on every night. No pressure to 'learn' it, 'know' it, relaxed, restful state of mind, enjoy it.
Over time, it will become part of you, your mind, your world view, your values.
You'll be living life and scripture will 'come to you' and it's because you'll be familiar (FAMILY-ar) with it.
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Your position is to be based on Scripture. Not emotion. Not culture. Not the opinions of those who might be further down the path, than you, with our Eternal Father.

I encourage you to put on the audio Bible at bedtime.

BibleGateway.com has an audio Bible (See navigation below) with a timer feature.

Within a web browser on your phone, visit www. BibleGateway.com
(no need to install an app).

NAVIGATION

At BibleGateway.com
1. Tap on the main menu [three horizontal lines, top-left corner of browser]
2. Main menu expands to display a sub menu.
3. Tap on "READ THE BIBLE"
4. "READ THE BIBLE" expands to display a sub menu.
5. [Bottom of sub menu] tap on "Audio Bibles"
6. You may need to scroll down an inch, tap on "NIV Dramatized" [a drop-down list under the text 'LISTEN TO THE BIBLE"] change it to "NIV by George W. Sarris"
7. Beneath "NIV by George W. Sarris" change the book from Genesis to Colossians.
8. Beneath the book, tap the white button with text "Start Passage" within the blue box (button).
7. A new browser tab opens.
8. Beneath the transport buttons (vertical lines and triangle combinations) is a clock with "Set Timer" to the left of the clock. Tap on it.
9. A list of time durations is displayed, tap on "2 hours"
10. Immediately above the "Set timer" option, tap on the right-pointing triangle to begin playing.

Put it on every night. No pressure to 'learn' it, 'know' it, relaxed, restful state of mind, enjoy it.
Over time, it will become part of you, your mind, your world view, your values.
You'll be living life and scripture will 'come to you' and it's because you'll be familiar (FAMILY-ar) with it.
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This is a Catholic subform, just so you are aware, and YES! WE LOVE scripture! :)
 
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The first one, but I know where this is headed. :sigh:

If you believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay for your sins and have accepted His payment for your sins, then you are saved.

If you have already done this, you're most likely experiencing a Satanic attack where Satan wants you believe you're not saved when you in fact are. It happens to most (if not all) believers some time after they're saved.

If you haven't accepted Jesus' payment for your sins, you have to decide for yourself if you will do that or not.
 
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If you believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay for your sins and have accepted His payment for your sins, then you are saved.

If you have already done this, you're most likely experiencing a Satanic attack where Satan wants you believe you're not saved when you in fact are. It happens to most (if not all) believers some time after they're saved.

If you haven't accepted Jesus' payment for your sins, you have to decide for yourself if you will do that or not.
For Pete’s sake! She is a practicing Catholic Christian! Please remember which forum you are posting in. Lady Bug is a Christian and it’s insulting to infer that she isn’t. When speaking of being a convert or not, she is referring being Catholic. Nothing else. She was a practicing Christian before entering the Church.
 
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For Pete’s sake! She is a practicing Catholic Christian! Please remember which forum you are posting in. Lady Bug is a Christian and it’s insulting to infer that she isn’t. When speaking of being a convert or not, she is referring being Catholic. Nothing else. She was a practicing Christian before entering the Church.

I saw her post and had to reach out to her out of Christian love and concern. I asked her a question for clarification, she willfully answered.

Not once did I accuse her of not being a Christian.
 
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Your position is to be based on Scripture. Not emotion. Not culture. Not the opinions of those who might be further down the path, than you, with our Eternal Father.

I encourage you to put on the audio Bible at bedtime.

BibleGateway.com has an audio Bible (See navigation below) with a timer feature.

Within a web browser on your phone, visit www. BibleGateway.com
(no need to install an app).

NAVIGATION

At BibleGateway.com
1. Tap on the main menu [three horizontal lines, top-left corner of browser]
2. Main menu expands to display a sub menu.
3. Tap on "READ THE BIBLE"
4. "READ THE BIBLE" expands to display a sub menu.
5. [Bottom of sub menu] tap on "Audio Bibles"
6. You may need to scroll down an inch, tap on "NIV Dramatized" [a drop-down list under the text 'LISTEN TO THE BIBLE"] change it to "NIV by George W. Sarris"
7. Beneath "NIV by George W. Sarris" change the book from Genesis to Colossians.
8. Beneath the book, tap the white button with text "Start Passage" within the blue box (button).
7. A new browser tab opens.
8. Beneath the transport buttons (vertical lines and triangle combinations) is a clock with "Set Timer" to the left of the clock. Tap on it.
9. A list of time durations is displayed, tap on "2 hours"
10. Immediately above the "Set timer" option, tap on the right-pointing triangle to begin playing.

Put it on every night. No pressure to 'learn' it, 'know' it, relaxed, restful state of mind, enjoy it.
Over time, it will become part of you, your mind, your world view, your values.
You'll be living life and scripture will 'come to you' and it's because you'll be familiar (FAMILY-ar) with it.
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@Lady Bug , Stay away from this website/AP and stick with a Catholic resource. You never know what heresies are inserted into the text of so called bibles with only 66 books
 
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I saw her post and had to reach out to her out of Christian love and concern. I asked her a question for clarification, she willfully answered.

Not once did I accuse her of not being a Christian.
You said:
If you haven't accepted Jesus' payment for your sins, you have to decide for yourself if you will do that or not.

Do you think Catholics are not Christians? Do you think because they are of a different tradition that they are not saved? Who do you think we worship? Of course we accept the Lord’s Passion.

That is the impression I got. And the question was asked in the Catholic safe haven. You are more than welcome to fellowship but you and Lady Bug are talking about two very different things.
 
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