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Would you like to talk about the memorial service, and event that actually took place?
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Charlie Kirk's Memorial Service: Let's Talk About That.
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Yes, nothing made me feel more in harmony with those on the right than listening to political operative Stephen Miller's shouts about securing victory over those of us who don't produce anything.
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Probably the only clip that was shown on the liberal news network he watched.
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I watched part of it. All I can say is one word: Wierdcore. Even Friday Night at Freddy's wasn't that weird and grotesque.
MAGA has descended into a wierd, glitchy parody of itself, in an ouroboric logic that can only be produced through algorithms and spectacle. We had a singular gesture of forgiveness sanctifying rage and contempt. Only kitsch, nostalgia, and willfull blindness can make that possible.
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I must have missed that bit. I never recall Jesus atoning death and resurrection being mentioned. Aside from Erika Kirk, there weren't any of Christ's actual teachings being demonstrated, either (and the president went out of his way to contradict this, anyways). On the contrary, Tulsi Gabbard was there to push MAGA's divisive politics, and Gabbard belongs to a group that in the 1980's, a time when Evangelicals were less political, would have been considered a cult by many Christians in general (she claims to be Hindu, but she actually belongs to an offshot of the Hare Krishna movement that was started by a white guy and used to be known for aggressive proselytism and manipulative and controlling behaviors).
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OK, but that sort of proves my wider point. If you want to preach the Gospel, why mix it with a message about how half of American voters are enemies that need to be fought and opposed? And why associate that Gospel message with a man who focused so much on racial grievance politics? It doesn't seem very sincere if you want your message to be heard clearly. In fact it could easily be seen as scandalizing the Gospel for no good reason except partisan political gain.
Or is this about Trump supporters that are Evangelicals failing to realize there are many Christians that didn't vote for Donald Trump, didn't approve of Charlie Kirk, either because they are Black Americans, the minority of white Evangelicals that reject Christian Nationalism, or the many other Protestants and Catholics that simply don't align with that kind of politics, whether in the US or around the world? The Kingdom of God is bigger than being white or being American.
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This is very nitpicky, be warned. The etmology of the word sin is is the distance to bulls eye in archery? It would be pretty strange if it didn't share etymology with the swedish word "synd", and that is also what wikipedia says, meaning crime, transgression or misdeed. I know the saying "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story" but the point could've been made without using questionable etymology.
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It’s the only part I watched in full. I skimmed over the whole video looking for his pastor’s bit but it was 7 hours and the only faces I recognized were political.
But let’s say I take you guys at your word and the pastor’s message was great. Was there something unifying and uplifting in the speeches given by Trump or by Don Jr that I missed? Should I go back and listen to those? Or how about others’? What were the highlights? Or was it just the pastor?
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Probably not, but that doesn’t stop me from watching other things.
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Not sure you actually watched the video. The pastor never said anything about half of of American voters being enemies that need to be fought and opposed.
The pastor wasn’t doing that. Charlie was a Christian and so his pastor was preaching the Christian gospel. It’s that simple. You’re reading too much of your own grievances into his speech.
Who said the Kingdom of God is about being white or being American?
You complain that Charlie focused so much on racial grievance politics yet it’s all you seem to be focusing on in your post. Charlie tried to get minorities out of this victimhood and oppression mentality that has been instilled in them. Something you seem to have deeply ingrained in you. Charlie is to be commended for trying to get minorities out of that unhelpful mindset.
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You haven’t been around my father doing home repairs.
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That’s kind of where I’m at. I chalked it up to me not being the target audience or my general dislike of the megachurch vibe, but it just felt more like a rally than a memorial. Like, if Trump could fully lean into the performative Christian angle at his rallies, we’d get that.
That all being said, I have no doubt that it’s exactly the sendoff Kirk would have wanted for himself, so in that sense it checked the most important box. Not the sendoff I hope to have, but I have no problem seeing why the demographic it was directed to found it to be a thing.
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