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This small Virginia island could be underwater before the next century

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Yep, that's what we were taught. Over and over. The hole in the ozone layer was causing global warming which would melt the polar ice caps, which would lead to much of Florida, Cape Cod, and Manhattan being submerged by 2025. I remember that so clearly because it scared the living daylights out of me as a kid.
CFCs are greenhouse gasses and quite powerful ones (more powerful per gram than CO2 and possibly methane), but are emitted in rather tiny proportions. The total heating from CFCs is a percent or two of the CO2 heating. The polar ice caps are melting, but from CO2-based heating.
Again, this is why I don't pay much attention to predictions.
Someone in that classroom didn't understand CFCs, the ozone hole, and global warming.

(And could you not modify the font in your posts from the default. It is smaller and grayer than the rest of the text. THX.)
 
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Yep, that's what we were taught. Over and over. The hole in the ozone layer was causing global warming which would melt the polar ice caps, which would lead to much of Florida, Cape Cod, and Manhattan being submerged by 2025. I remember that so clearly because it scared the living daylights out of me as a kid.

Again, this is why I don't pay much attention to predictions.
It's happening. It's been happening. It's happening faster than ever now.


The increase in global mean sea level (GMSL) is a key signal of climate change. Researchers at The Hong Kong Polytechnic University (PolyU) have applied advanced space-based geodetic methods to produce the first accurate 30-year record (1993–2022) of global ocean mass change, also known as barystatic sea level. Their analysis shows that changes in ocean mass play the leading role in driving sea-level rise.


The study also found that GMSL has been rising at an average of about 3.3 millimeters per year, with a clear acceleration over time, underscoring the worsening impacts of climate change. The results were published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


Two main processes are responsible for GMSL rise: the thermal expansion of seawater, as the oceans absorb roughly 90% of the excess heat from Earth’s climate system, and the growth in ocean mass caused by freshwater input from melting land ice. Continuous monitoring of ocean mass change is therefore critical to understanding current sea-level trends.



“Generally, when we talk about sea level rise, we think of three main contributors. The first is that the ocean is warming, and because warmer water takes up more space than cooler water, the level of a warmer ocean is higher than that of a cooler ocean. This is known as thermal expansion. It is the same thing that happens to mercury in a thermometer – when the surrounding air heats up, the mercury heats up and expands, so it reaches a higher number on the scale.

“The second contributor is the melting of glaciers, which is when frozen water on land melts and flows into the ocean. It is important to keep in mind that melting glaciers contribute to sea level rise but melting sea ice has almost no impact on sea level. This is because sea ice, which floats on the ocean, displaces the same volume in its frozen state as it does in its liquid state. So, whether sea ice remains frozen or melts, the sea level stays almost the same.

“It is a different story when it comes to the water in glaciers. When frozen, that water stays locked on land. But when a glacier melts, that water ends up in the ocean, causing the sea level to rise.

“The third contributor, which has a very small impact globally but can have a noticeable one locally, has to do with the fact that freshwater is less dense than saltwater. Because glaciers and sea ice are mainly composed of freshwater, melting glaciers and melting sea ice contributes more freshwater to the ocean, raising the sea level.

“What you can see in this map is that although the overall trend is that the sea level is rising, it does not do so homogenously across the globe. The ocean is not static – it is moving all the time. Some variations in sea level are caused by ocean currents and El Niño- and La Niña-related events, which impact the temperature of the ocean and sea level unevenly. So, the 30 years of data that we show here is long-term but not enough to compensate for all the variations.

...“When people hear that the sea level is rising just a few millimetres per year, some do not think much of it. But looking back at sea level rise over the past 30 years, it amounts to something like 10 centimetres. And because sea level is not just rising steadily but actually accelerating, we might have an additional 10 centimetres of rise in the next 15 years. Even if these increases still sound small, they put more areas at risk of severe coastal flooding. Even if we were to stop emitting every kind of greenhouse gas right now, the sea level would continue to rise for many more years.
 
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Why is that odd? Have you compared the extent of these persistent holes to one that cause alarm decades ago?
Please: The only reason it doesn't get much publicity now is that it doesn't sell news like it once did. Headlines are the original click-bait, and after a file the same thing grows tiresome and the press moves on to a new "We're all going to die!" story.
 
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Essentialsaltes:

I couldn't quote the portions you quoted, but rip-rap on shorelines only protects from erosion, not rising seas. Again, look at the elevations in Google Earth. It's so low that the topo map doesn't show any elevation lines inside the island. Accepting the premise that sea levels in that part of Virginia / New Jersey are accurate, they would have to do a Galveston and raise the entire settlement. As low as the island is, if they only raise the roads, that's all that's going to be above the waves. That's why I said they picked the low hanging fruit in writing about that island.
 
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It's happening. It's been happening. It's happening faster than ever now.

The increase in global mean sea level (GMSL) is a key signal of climate change. Researchers at The Hong Kong Polytechnic University (PolyU) have applied advanced space-based geodetic methods to produce the first accurate 30-year record (1993–2022) of global ocean mass change, also known as barystatic sea level. Their analysis shows that changes in ocean mass play the leading role in driving sea-level rise.​
The study also found that GMSL has been rising at an average of about 3.3 millimeters per year, with a clear acceleration over time, underscoring the worsening impacts of climate change. The results were published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.​
Two main processes are responsible for GMSL rise: the thermal expansion of seawater, as the oceans absorb roughly 90% of the excess heat from Earth’s climate system, and the growth in ocean mass caused by freshwater input from melting land ice. Continuous monitoring of ocean mass change is therefore critical to understanding current sea-level trends.​


“Generally, when we talk about sea level rise, we think of three main contributors. The first is that the ocean is warming, and because warmer water takes up more space than cooler water, the level of a warmer ocean is higher than that of a cooler ocean. This is known as thermal expansion. It is the same thing that happens to mercury in a thermometer – when the surrounding air heats up, the mercury heats up and expands, so it reaches a higher number on the scale.​
“The second contributor is the melting of glaciers, which is when frozen water on land melts and flows into the ocean. It is important to keep in mind that melting glaciers contribute to sea level rise but melting sea ice has almost no impact on sea level. This is because sea ice, which floats on the ocean, displaces the same volume in its frozen state as it does in its liquid state. So, whether sea ice remains frozen or melts, the sea level stays almost the same.​
“It is a different story when it comes to the water in glaciers. When frozen, that water stays locked on land. But when a glacier melts, that water ends up in the ocean, causing the sea level to rise.​
“The third contributor, which has a very small impact globally but can have a noticeable one locally, has to do with the fact that freshwater is less dense than saltwater. Because glaciers and sea ice are mainly composed of freshwater, melting glaciers and melting sea ice contributes more freshwater to the ocean, raising the sea level.​
“What you can see in this map is that although the overall trend is that the sea level is rising, it does not do so homogenously across the globe. The ocean is not static – it is moving all the time. Some variations in sea level are caused by ocean currents and El Niño- and La Niña-related events, which impact the temperature of the ocean and sea level unevenly. So, the 30 years of data that we show here is long-term but not enough to compensate for all the variations.​
...“When people hear that the sea level is rising just a few millimetres per year, some do not think much of it. But looking back at sea level rise over the past 30 years, it amounts to something like 10 centimetres. And because sea level is not just rising steadily but actually accelerating, we might have an additional 10 centimetres of rise in the next 15 years. Even if these increases still sound small, they put more areas at risk of severe coastal flooding. Even if we were to stop emitting every kind of greenhouse gas right now, the sea level would continue to rise for many more years.​
Horrifying!
 
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