Kimmel is Back

Yarddog · Tuesday at 11:09 AM

Servus said:
Read the charging documents.

Thanks, that's a good explanation of the charges and evidence.

Servus said:
There's video evidence of Robinson holding the rifle his DNA was all over after he discarded it in the wooded area as he went into detail about in his text messages to Lance Twiggs.

The video doesn't show him holding a rifle. The say it appears consistent with a rifle. Weapons experts say that it couldn't be a 30-06, which the suspect was taking off the roof, unless he was able to break the rifle down and put it in a bag or backpack, which they doubt.

Servus said:
And there's no way to know what all damage the expended round caused until the medical examiner's report is released.

The surgeon said that the round was found inside Kirk's neck, lodged against the spinal column, according to right wing sites.

Servus said:
In the meantime there's this mortician's evaluation:

Great video. Ballistic tests will show if the rifle is the murder weapon.

Yarddog · Tuesday at 11:20 AM

childeye 2 said:
I suppose you could trace the beginnings of liberal thought back to earlier forms of oppression, but I'm primarily referring to protecting civil liberties guaranteed in the Bill of rights.

That is what all US political parties do, especially the Libertarian Party which a Conservative entity.

childeye 2 said:
I only recall Jefferson and Madison establishing some form of a party system.

https://m.government-and-constitution.org/history-us-political-parties/timeline-us-political-parties.htm

expos4ever · Tuesday at 11:29 AM

iarwain said:
I wonder if he will double down on his claims that the shooter was MAGA?

Did he ever claim this? Perhaps he did, but I am not sure. Is there any evidence of his making such a claim?

Servus · Tuesday at 11:34 AM

Yarddog said:
Thanks, that's a good explanation of the charges and evidence.

The video doesn't show him holding a rifle. The say it appears consistent with a rifle. Weapons experts say that it couldn't be a 30-06, which the suspect was taking off the roof, unless he was able to break the rifle down and put it in a bag or backpack, which they doubt.

That's not in the charging documents.

A camera later captures the suspect as he runs across the roof to the suspected shooting position. Immediately after the shot was fired, a camera captures the suspect running across the roof carrying an item whose shape is consistent with a rifle.

The words "backpack" and "bag" don't appear anywhere.

Yarddog said:
The surgeon said that the round was found inside Kirk's neck, lodged against the spinal column, according to right wing sites.

Great video. Ballistic tests will show if the rifle is the murder weapon.

Excerpts from the text messaging between Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs:

Roommate: you weren’t the one who did it right????

Robinson: I am, I’m sorry

Roommate: I thought they caught the person?

Robinson: no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. Its quiet, almost enough to get out, but theres one vehicle lingering

Roommate: Why?

Robinson: Why did I do it?

Roommate: Yeah

Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything about them finding it.

Roommate: How long have you been planning this?

Robinson: a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it but there is a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don’t wanna chance it

Robinson: I’m wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. … I’m worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back grandpas rifle … idek if it had a serial number, but it wouldn’t trace to me. I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. didn’t have the ability or time to bring it with. … I might have to abandon it and hope they don’t find prints. how the **** will I explain losing it to my old man. …only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. …remember how I was engraving bullets? The ****** messages are mostly a big meme, if I see “notices bulge uwu” on fox new I might have a stroke alright im gonna have to leave it, that really ****** sucks. …

I censored the profanity with asterisks.

childeye 2 · Tuesday at 11:43 AM

Servus said:

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

We can see above that Kimmel does NOT say that "the shooter was a MAGA Republican".
Kimmel said The MAGA gang was trying to characterize Tyler Robinson as someone other than MAGA. Kimmel even qualified his meaning by conveying the intent as disingenuous for the purpose of "scoring political points".

Hazelelponi · Tuesday at 11:46 AM

Pepperdoodle said:
Jimmy Kimmel is returning to ABC on Tuesday, Disney says

"Jimmy Kimmel Live!" will return to ABC on Tuesday after the late-night host's comments on Charlie Kirk's death caused the network to pull the show.

www.businessinsider.com

What do you think?
Agree or disagree?

He has fewer nightly viewers than Charlie Kirk's funeral had attendee's but if ABC and Disney don't like creating shows people actually want to watch it's their loss.

I do think ABC should be prepared for their phones to ring off the hook every time he says something cancel culture doesn't like though.

Servus · Tuesday at 11:47 AM

childeye 2 said:
Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

We can see above that Kimmel does NOT say that "the shooter was a MAGA Republican".
Kimmel said The MAGA gang was trying to characterize Tyler Robinson as someone other than MAGA. Kimmel even qualified his meaning by conveying the intent as disingenuous for the purpose of "scoring political points".

No, he said the shooter was one of them (MAGA).

childeye 2 · Tuesday at 11:49 AM

Servus said:
No, he said the shooter was one of them (MAGA).

He didn't in the statement I posted. --> Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

Servus · Tuesday at 11:51 AM

Hazelelponi said:
He has fewer nightly viewers than Charlie Kirk's funeral had attendee's but if ABC and Disney don't like creating shows people actually want to watch it's their loss.

I do think ABC should be prepared for their phones to ring off the hook every time he says something cancel culture doesn't like though.

Interested in seeing the clip of his monolog tonight. If he and his writers have any sense, he won't say anything more about the shooting. I can't watch it on ABC though, because the ABC station where I live is owned by Sinclair and they won't air it.

Servus · Tuesday at 11:52 AM

childeye 2 said:
He didn't in the statement I posted. --> Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

Yes he did.

Yarddog · Tuesday at 11:57 AM

Servus said:
That's not in the charging documents.

A camera later captures the suspect as he runs across the roof to the suspected shooting position. Immediately after the shot was fired, a camera captures the suspect running across the roof carrying an item whose shape is consistent with a rifle.

The words "backpack" and "bag" don't appear anywhere.

I didn't say that they did. I said the video doesn't show a rifle, they say it was consistent with a rifle. I also said weapons experts said the remarks about the bag.

Servus said:
Excerpts from the text messaging between Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs:

Roommate: you weren’t the one who did it right????

Robinson: I am, I’m sorry

Roommate: I thought they caught the person?

Robinson: no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. Its quiet, almost enough to get out, but theres one vehicle lingering

Roommate: Why?

Robinson: Why did I do it?

Roommate: Yeah

Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything about them finding it.

Roommate: How long have you been planning this?

Robinson: a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it but there is a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don’t wanna chance it

Robinson: I’m wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. … I’m worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back grandpas rifle … idek if it had a serial number, but it wouldn’t trace to me. I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. didn’t have the ability or time to bring it with. … I might have to abandon it and hope they don’t find prints. how the **** will I explain losing it to my old man. …only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. …remember how I was engraving bullets? The ****** messages are mostly a big meme, if I see “notices bulge uwu” on fox new I might have a stroke alright im gonna have to leave it, that really ****** sucks. …

I censored the profanity with asterisks.

I've never said that evidence shows that Robinson wasn't the perpetrator.

childeye 2 · Tuesday at 12:00 PM

Servus said:
Yes he did.

It's on the record. You're reading into it something that wasn't said and blaming Kimmel according to a dubious paraphrase that doesn't even factor in Kimmel's qualifier that the intent of the MAGA gang was to score political points.

Every lie of the devil intends to undermine love God with all your heart mind and soul and your neighbor as yourself.

Servus · Tuesday at 12:02 PM

childeye 2 said:
It's on the record. You're reading into it and blaming Kimmel according to a paraphrase that doesn't even factor in Kimmel's claim that the intent of the MAGA gang was to score political points.

Nope, I'm not the one doing selective reading.

Pepperdoodle · Tuesday at 12:05 PM

Hazelelponi said:
He has fewer nightly viewers than Charlie Kirk's funeral had attendee's but if ABC and Disney don't like creating shows people actually want to watch it's their loss.

I do think ABC should be prepared for their phones to ring off the hook every time he says something cancel culture doesn't like though.

The Left leaning known for their cancel culture don't ike it when it coms their way

Servus · Tuesday at 12:08 PM

Yarddog said:
I didn't say that they did. I said the video doesn't show a rifle, they say it was consistent with a rifle.

Please.

Yarddog said:
I also said weapons experts said the remarks about the bag.

They were wrong. I myself read such a comment. But the author later recanted.

Yarddog said:
I've never said that evidence shows that Robinson wasn't the perpetrator.

Robinson obviously is the assassin and the rifle that was found with is DNA all over it is obviously the murder weapon.

childeye 2 · Tuesday at 12:12 PM

Servus said:
Nope, I'm not the one doing selective reading.

It's on the record ->

Servus said:
No, he said the shooter was one of them (MAGA).

Kimmel is clearly conveying that it's --> The MAGA Gang saying Robinson is not one of them.

Actual transcript: We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

Servus · Tuesday at 12:15 PM

childeye 2 said:
It's on the record including a video that misquotes Kimmel's words.

the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

That's obviously Kimmel claiming the shooter was a MAGA as anyone can clearly see. That's why ABC/Disney suspended him, and why Sinclair has banned him.

chevyontheriver · Tuesday at 12:21 PM

Pepperdoodle said:
Since he's not funny, like someone as Fallon is...no.

OK then.

Pepperdoodle said:
Is Kimmel funny to you?

He bores me. He is more of a lecturer than a comedian.

Pepperdoodle · Tuesday at 12:31 PM

chevyontheriver said:
OK then.

He bores me. He is more of a lecturer than a comedian.

Agree!!

Johnny Carson knew how to be a good late night show host, he rarely dug into politics.
The current day late night show hosts are political puppets doing the bidding of their Left leaning leaders :yawn:

childeye 2 · Tuesday at 12:43 PM

Servus said:
the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

It's on the record ->You said that Kimmel said the shooter was MAGA yet the above clearly shows Kimmel saying It was MAGA saying the shooter wasn't one of them.

Servus said:
No, he said the shooter was one of them (MAGA).

Kimmel is clearly conveying that it's --> The MAGA Gang trying to characterize Robinson as not one of them. < -- Kimmel could be referring to the fact that Robinson comes from a conservative family that voted for Trump, but he also could be meaning something else.

Actual transcript: We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

Servus said:
That's obviously Kimmel claiming the shooter was a MAGA as anyone can clearly see. That's why ABC/Disney suspended him, and why Sinclair has banned him.

Just because someone enters a room of people and says to one person that they are beautiful, it doesn't automatically translate into that someone having called everyone else in the room ugly.

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