Citing Charlie Kirk murder, Tennessee pastor demands removal of 'Hate Has No Home' signs

essentialsaltes · 2025-09-21T13:03:27-0500

"When you accuse someone of preaching hate, they are saying I hope somebody puts a bullet in your neck. That's what that means," [Andrew] Isker claimed in a live podcast Friday afternoon.

Isker derided what he described as “many foolish Christian leaders” who have urged people to follow the words of Jesus to love their enemies and to turn the other cheek.

“This great evil must not be tolerated. It must be rooted out and eradicated," he insisted.

That vengeance, he said, would come in the form of government crackdown, not from vigilante action.

[From his Facebook post to a Jackson County group]

The Hate Has No Home in Gainesboro/Jackson County signs did not bother me. I have always known I have opinions that some people will disagree with. It was no surprise that people would react strongly when the TV (falsely) told them that a Nazi had moved into the area.
But things have changed after yesterday. Gainesboro is my home now. I am not leaving. If the "hate" is me, and I am not leaving, "no home here" means the only way I don't have a home here is if someone kills me.
I don't think anyone who has these signs up supports radical leftist terrorism. I think you are decent Americans who disagree with my views. But you need to understand what your message is being associated with: it has been taken to mean you support violence against people you hate. If you really believe the rhetoric needs to be toned down, you will show it by putting these signs away.

[Sorry pal, just because you apparently take this criticism to mean that doesn't mean it does. It is by no means inciting or a threat. We are all allowed to opine that you are preaching hate.]

"I hope every scumbag journalist is shaking in his boots right now."

As Scripps News Nashville first revealed, Isker is leading an effort to establish a Christian nationalist community in Jackson County, Tennessee, about 90 minutes northeast of Nashville.

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essentialsaltes said:
'Gay beam machine': Right-wing pastor makes startling claim about airport scanners
Andrew Isker, who co-hosts with C. Jay Engel what he calls "the number one Christian nationalist podcast in the world," shared his unconventional and homophobic views on the Transportation Safety Administration's security scanners in a video flagged by WTVF's Phil Williams, who has reported extensively on his ministry.

Isker and Engel moved to Tennessee with aims of creating a community so-called "Heritage Americans," who are depicted in their social media posts with images of Norman Rockwell's idyllic depictions of midcentury life, and they have explicitly stated their longing for the American way of life before women joined the workforce and civil rights "ruined everything."

"I had to be molested at the airport to go to Florida, right, just to get on an airplane, just because I'm not going to go through the 'gay beam' machine. I didn't let C. Jay do it, I wouldn't let him do it. I said, 'You're getting patted down, too, buddy. I don't want them turning you gay.'"

"It appears having a guy touch you all over place, on its face, seems worse, but you don't really know what those things are doing to you," Isker added. "They can just take a picture of me naked? Like, no."

Engel, his co-host, interjected to speculate the scanning process might somehow involve "virtual ██████████," a reference to the chemical compound produced by the ██████ of ████████ which plays a role in █████ lore about ████ ███ and alleged ███ ████████ ███.

ViaCrucis · 2025-09-21T13:53:35-0500

essentialsaltes said:
"When you accuse someone of preaching hate, they are saying I hope somebody puts a bullet in your neck. That's what that means," [Andrew] Isker claimed in a live podcast Friday afternoon.

Isker derided what he described as “many foolish Christian leaders” who have urged people to follow the words of Jesus to love their enemies and to turn the other cheek.

“This great evil must not be tolerated. It must be rooted out and eradicated," he insisted.

That vengeance, he said, would come in the form of government crackdown, not from vigilante action.

[From his Facebook post to a Jackson County group]

The Hate Has No Home in Gainesboro/Jackson County signs did not bother me. I have always known I have opinions that some people will disagree with. It was no surprise that people would react strongly when the TV (falsely) told them that a Nazi had moved into the area.
But things have changed after yesterday. Gainesboro is my home now. I am not leaving. If the "hate" is me, and I am not leaving, "no home here" means the only way I don't have a home here is if someone kills me.
I don't think anyone who has these signs up supports radical leftist terrorism. I think you are decent Americans who disagree with my views. But you need to understand what your message is being associated with: it has been taken to mean you support violence against people you hate. If you really believe the rhetoric needs to be toned down, you will show it by putting these signs away.

[Sorry pal, just because you apparently take this criticism to mean that doesn't mean it does. It is by no means inciting or a threat. We are all allowed to opine that you are preaching hate.]

"I hope every scumbag journalist is shaking in his boots right now."

As Scripps News Nashville first revealed, Isker is leading an effort to establish a Christian nationalist community in Jackson County, Tennessee, about 90 minutes northeast of Nashville.

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"Stop preaching love your enemies, it's dangerous--or we'll hurt you" sounds awfully familiar.

I wonder if the... *checks notes* ...pastor has ever read from that big black book on his shelf. Or maybe he was asleep during seminary? Or perhaps he just hates Jesus. Hating Jesus is a growing trend in American churches.

-CryptoLutheran

Richard T · 2025-09-21T19:02:51-0500

I am not leaving?
I doubt there are many liberals in Jackson, TN. 67% of Madison County voted for Trump. So I hope he quits playing a victim and reads the book of James.
James 4:13-16 (KJV)
13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain:
14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.
16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.

High Fidelity · 2025-09-21T20:11:16-0500

Kirk's wife publicly stated her forgiveness for her husband's murderer.

If she can find the strength for that then I hope others can simmer down too.

There's every reason to be angry, but the violence needs to stop.

Maria Billingsley · 2025-09-22T08:16:29-0500

essentialsaltes said:
"When you accuse someone of preaching hate, they are saying I hope somebody puts a bullet in your neck. That's what that means," [Andrew] Isker claimed in a live podcast Friday afternoon.

Isker derided what he described as “many foolish Christian leaders” who have urged people to follow the words of Jesus to love their enemies and to turn the other cheek.

“This great evil must not be tolerated. It must be rooted out and eradicated," he insisted.

That vengeance, he said, would come in the form of government crackdown, not from vigilante action.

[From his Facebook post to a Jackson County group]

The Hate Has No Home in Gainesboro/Jackson County signs did not bother me. I have always known I have opinions that some people will disagree with. It was no surprise that people would react strongly when the TV (falsely) told them that a Nazi had moved into the area.
But things have changed after yesterday. Gainesboro is my home now. I am not leaving. If the "hate" is me, and I am not leaving, "no home here" means the only way I don't have a home here is if someone kills me.
I don't think anyone who has these signs up supports radical leftist terrorism. I think you are decent Americans who disagree with my views. But you need to understand what your message is being associated with: it has been taken to mean you support violence against people you hate. If you really believe the rhetoric needs to be toned down, you will show it by putting these signs away.

[Sorry pal, just because you apparently take this criticism to mean that doesn't mean it does. It is by no means inciting or a threat. We are all allowed to opine that you are preaching hate.]

"I hope every scumbag journalist is shaking in his boots right now."

As Scripps News Nashville first revealed, Isker is leading an effort to establish a Christian nationalist community in Jackson County, Tennessee, about 90 minutes northeast of Nashville.

see also:

Well all I have to say is a pastor needs to be sure that if he is hated he better be hated for all the right reasons. If we are to follow in the footsteps of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, better to be hated for the sake of His Kingdom and not an earthly one.

AI Generated:

Reasons Jesus was hated:
* He challenged religious authorities: Jesus often criticized the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and scribes and disregarded their interpretations of Mosaic Law, such as healing on the Sabbath.
* His claim to divinity: Many Jewish leaders considered his claims of being the Son of God and equal to God to be blasphemy.
* He associated with social outcasts: He was criticized for spending time with and eating with "sinners," like tax collectors and prostitutes additionally He often healed and associated with Gentiles and Samaritans.
* Political and social threat: Some people, especially the religious and political elite, feared that his teachings and popularity could lead to an uprising against Roman rule, threatening their power and control.
* Jesus's "cleansing" of the Temple, where he overturned the tables of money changers and drove out those selling animals for sacrifice, was a highly confrontational act. This directly challenged the religious and economic system of the Temple and angered the authorities who profited from it.

Let us reason please.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-09-22T08:23:04-0500

While it sounds like this guy's a bit of a nut (and probably the wrong messenger to be making this critique)

I think we can stop pretending that the "Hate has no home here" slogan doesn't carry more meaning behind it than the mere generic semantic definition of the phrase.

When you look at a lot of the signage and "swag" being sold incorporating that phrase...

The slogan has become something of a "catch-all" for every left-wing ideal/initiative, the implication that being that opposition to any of them = "Hate (that is not welcome in this home)"

Larniavc · 2025-09-22T08:26:07-0500

My initial thought was ‘this is just Christians disagreeing with each other as usual’ but on reflection this seems a significant departure from the message Jesus gives in the Bible.

I’d be interested to hear from anyone who agrees with a Christian message of MORE hate. That would take some doing I think.

Larniavc · 2025-09-22T08:28:12-0500

ThatRobGuy said:
While it sounds like this guy's a bit of a nut (and probably the wrong messenger to be making this critique)

I think we can stop pretending that the "Hate has no home here" slogan doesn't carry more meaning behind it than the mere generic semantic definition of the phrase.

When you look at a lot of the signage and "swag" being sold incorporating that phrase...

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The slogan has become something of a "catch-all" for every left-wing ideal/initiative, the implication that being that opposition to any of them = "Hate (that is not welcome in this home)"

I think you miss the point of the above messages.

Maria Billingsley · 2025-09-22T08:31:45-0500

ThatRobGuy said:
While it sounds like this guy's a bit of a nut (and probably the wrong messenger to be making this critique)

I think we can stop pretending that the "Hate has no home here" slogan doesn't carry more meaning behind it than the mere generic semantic definition of the phrase.

When you look at a lot of the signage and "swag" being sold incorporating that phrase...

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The slogan has become something of a "catch-all" for every left-wing ideal/initiative, the implication that being that opposition to any of them = "Hate (that is not welcome in this home)"

Honestly, I see a more unifying message as compared to this one.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-09-22T08:38:05-0500

Maria Billingsley said:
Honestly, I see a more unifying message as compared to this one. View attachment 370424

You may consider the other one to be more unifying, but I'd say at least this one you posted (while still a silly sign that I would mock if I drove by it) is honest and not trying to use semantic overload in an attempt to redefine terms.

In my personal opinion, neither is particularly "unifying" considering the that the goal of both appears to be a middle finger to the other 50% of the country.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-09-22T08:48:17-0500

Larniavc said:
I think you miss the point of the above messages.

Which point am I missing?

The opposite of hate is love, and according to the sign, love means supporting the policy initiatives of

LGBTQ+ advocacy
"Defend Democracy" (which is more coded semantic overload in contemporary usage "Doesn't question any aspects of the 2020 election results")
Abortion advocacy
BLM
The green movement
"Stop Asian Hate" (more coded language that originated during covid in response to Trump calling it "The China Virus")

I would say at least the Coexist symbolism/slogan...

...had the foresight to not try to link a noble sounding concept to the prerequisite of holding a specific (contentious) political viewpoint

I'm guessing it was replaced either due to the fact that it was perceived as "not confrontational enough", or perhaps because one or two of those symbols may have fallen out of favor with a particular subset of people.

Nithavela · 2025-09-22T08:52:30-0500

I think this is funny, since the american right has been trying to redefine statements like "turn the other cheek" and "walk the extra mile" from quiet endurance to active resistance.

FireDragon76 · 2025-09-22T09:05:40-0500

ThatRobGuy said:
While it sounds like this guy's a bit of a nut (and probably the wrong messenger to be making this critique)

I think we can stop pretending that the "Hate has no home here" slogan doesn't carry more meaning behind it than the mere generic semantic definition of the phrase.

When you look at a lot of the signage and "swag" being sold incorporating that phrase...

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The slogan has become something of a "catch-all" for every left-wing ideal/initiative, the implication that being that opposition to any of them = "Hate (that is not welcome in this home)"

That's based on innuendo, not fact. It's framing that only sees messages like "love is love" or "Hate has no home here" cynically as hollow posturing.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-09-22T09:18:49-0500

FireDragon76 said:
That's based on innuendo, not fact. It's framing a message through a rigid binary that only sees messages like "love is love" cynically as hollow posturing.

The "love is love" (especially on the rainbow backdrop) originated within LGBTQ advocacy movements, that's why people link it to political posturing

Purely semantically speaking, there should be nothing inherently polarizing or offensive about about the phrase "Make America Great Again". After all, just from a purely definitional standpoint, there's nothing wrong with someone suggesting "this country has some problems, and I'd like us to be great again"

But I would imagine when you see that slogan in the format of a red hat or a red yard sign, you have a certain reaction to it, correct?
(because you know there are well-known implications behind the current contemporary usage of that slogan)

Tropical Wilds · 2025-09-22T09:19:21-0500

ThatRobGuy said:
While it sounds like this guy's a bit of a nut (and probably the wrong messenger to be making this critique)

I think we can stop pretending that the "Hate has no home here" slogan doesn't carry more meaning behind it than the mere generic semantic definition of the phrase.

When you look at a lot of the signage and "swag" being sold incorporating that phrase...

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The slogan has become something of a "catch-all" for every left-wing ideal/initiative, the implication that being that opposition to any of them = "Hate (that is not welcome in this home)"

It only took 6 posts to make it about about the evils of LGBTQA+ and minorities. Impressive.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-09-22T09:23:56-0500

Tropical Wilds said:
It only took 6 posts to make it about about the evils of LGBTQA+ and minorities. Impressive.

That's not what I said, clearly you're not understanding the tone of my post.

I'm saying that people who prop those signs up are suggesting that "Hate" = "Not going along with the political advocacy attached to these causes", and then disingenuously acting all aloof "gee, I'm just saying I'm against hate, what's wrong with that???"

DaisyDay · 2025-09-22T09:24:47-0500

ThatRobGuy said:
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Which point am I missing?

The opposite of hate is love, and according to the sign, love means supporting the policy initiatives of

LGBTQ+ advocacy
"Defend Democracy" (which is more coded semantic overload in contemporary usage "Doesn't question any aspects of the 2020 election results")
Abortion advocacy
BLM
The green movement
"Stop Asian Hate" (more coded language that originated during covid in response to Trump calling it "The China Virus")

I would say at least the Coexist symbolism/slogan...
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...had the foresight to not try to link a noble sounding concept to the prerequisite of holding a specific (contentious) political viewpoint

I'm guessing it was replaced either due to the fact that it was perceived as "not confrontational enough", or perhaps because one or two of those symbols may have fallen out of favor with a particular subset of people.

"Stop hate" now is hate? Same as pointing out racist is itself racist? "Science is real" is wrong?

This smacks of Orwellian dystopia.

Tropical Wilds · 2025-09-22T09:26:49-0500

ThatRobGuy said:
That's not what I said, clearly you're not understanding the tone of my post.

I'm saying that people who prop those signs up are suggesting that "Hate" = "Not going along with the political advocacy attached to these causes", and then disingenuously acting all aloof "gee, I'm just saying I'm against hate, what's wrong with that???"

People who say that often mean they support that advocacy, but in the context of the church it seems more likely they're saying "all are welcome here" or at worst "hate the sin, love the sinner." Because, as a reminder, not hating people (even people who aren't living according to the Bible) is what the gold standard is.

FireDragon76 · 2025-09-22T09:29:35-0500

ThatRobGuy said:
The "love is love" (especially on the rainbow backdrop) originated within LGBTQ advocacy movements, that's why people link it to political posturing

I'm not so morally nihilistic to equate LGBT rights with MAGA.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-09-22T09:31:27-0500

DaisyDay said:
"Stop hate" now is hate? Same as pointing out racist is itself racist? "Science is real" is wrong?

This smacks of Orwellian dystopia.

No, it's just dishonest marketing.

If the sign said "Conservative views have no place in this home", then I would applaud them for saying what they mean, and meaning what they say.

A person's view on climate change isn't even linked to "hate". That's a policy disagreement.
"Opposing the BLM organization" doesn't equal "hating black people"
"Opposing abortion" doesn't equal "hating women"
"I don't agree all of the things the trans community is advocating for" doesn't equal "hating trans people"

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