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Hi Delvianna,I reject all claims that Christ told anyone that he is returning on a specific date. I know this verse is used a lot but stay with me for a second...
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."- Matthew 24:36
This section is talking about the 2nd coming of Christ, not a rapture because the entire chapter is talking about his coming and answering the question about the end of the age. But the idea is, that if you knew his return date, you would know the rapture date and if you know the rapture date, you would know his return date. Adding/subtracting 7 years or even 3 1/2 years regardless of how long you think the tribulation period is, makes the other date easy to know.
Then you have "not even the angels of heaven" know... What makes humans think that WE would know and Gods own messengers don't? That makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.
Then you have the concept of Jesus coming like a thief in the night, who announces their arrival and warns the home owner? It literally goes against the parable of the thief in Matthew 24. "Excuse me, I'm a thief but everyone, I'm coming on September 23rd, just so you guys know."
So I believe all these claims, is not from God because to me, they contradict scripture. And since we are called to test the spirits (1 John 4:1), this just looks like false prophecies to me. God would never contradict himself by saying one thing in scripture and doing another.
It's actually not. There's no evidence that Jews used or even still use this. I know this is being told all over the place, but this info is simply not true. If you have proof that any Jews use this or have done and it doesn't come from a Christian source that just claims that information (Like the Tanahk), then I'd love to see it because although the Jews do have other names for both the Feast of Trumpets and Feast of Tabernacles, the claim "no one knows the day or hour" is not an idiom they've used. There's literally no Jewish sources that prove this.
We've been warning people for thousands of years. He doesn't need to tell us in order for us to warn people about the tribulation period.
He didn't tell Lot. Just 2 angels showed up and tried to get him out of the city as quickly as possible so they could destroy it. And "as in the days of Lot" was used in Luke 17:28-37.
The issue is that the date of Jesus's death has been widely debated which is why there have been several dates thrown out from 28AD to 34 AD. Even then, the idea he "has" to come back before a year is also assumption as there isn't anything in the bible that makes that claim.
Which is true, but again, we need to remain sober (1 Peter 5:8-9). I've been watching for the rapture for decades and really actively watching since 2012 and people constantly come up claiming Jesus said, or this date or that date and they've all passed. I've seen people consider quitting their jobs, I've seen people consider walking away from Christianity and the point is... that if God decided to tell us when he was coming, that is putting a stumbling block in peoples path to just sit and do nothing thinking they're leaving soon. We are required to occupy (Luke 19:13) which includes still spreading the gospel and still warning people. This constant failure to peg a rapture date is only making Christians at large looking like a bunch of nut cases and no one wanted to listen to our warnings for crying wolf for so long. We need to stay rooted in the bible and not get swept up into sensationalism. At the core, this whole thing is against scripture. We can remind others of God's promise that he would come for us, but we need to remain sober about it. Date promotion is not the way to go.
IF Jesus Christ, the Son of God, didn't know, how does anyone who isn't God the Father? No one knows.I reject all claims that Christ told anyone that he is returning on a specific date. I know this verse is used a lot but stay with me for a second...
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."- Matthew 24:36
This section is talking about the 2nd coming of Christ, not a rapture because the entire chapter is talking about his coming and answering the question about the end of the age. But the idea is, that if you knew his return date, you would know the rapture date and if you know the rapture date, you would know his return date. Adding/subtracting 7 years or even 3 1/2 years regardless of how long you think the tribulation period is, makes the other date easy to know.
Then you have "not even the angels of heaven" know... What makes humans think that WE would know and Gods own messengers don't? That makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.
Then you have the concept of Jesus coming like a thief in the night, who announces their arrival and warns the home owner? It literally goes against the parable of the thief in Matthew 24. "Excuse me, I'm a thief but everyone, I'm coming on September 23rd, just so you guys know."
So I believe all these claims, is not from God because to me, they contradict scripture. And since we are called to test the spirits (1 John 4:1), this just looks like false prophecies to me. God would never contradict himself by saying one thing in scripture and doing another.
Ugh. False teaching. Read what Jesus said about all this date setting.
Prayers for those deceived and those suffering the fall out.
Hi there!
It's actually not. There's no evidence that Jews used or even still use this. I know this is being told all over the place, but this info is simply not true. If you have proof that any Jews use this or have done and it doesn't come from a Christian source that just claims that information (Like the Tanahk), then I'd love to see it because although the Jews do have other names for both the Feast of Trumpets and Feast of Tabernacles, the claim "no one knows the day or hour" is not an idiom they've used. There's literally no Jewish sources that prove this.
Unbelievers all know about the rapture?
Lot was the nephew of Abraham. Noah was the guy that built that giant boat before the flood
That puts us smack-dab in the middle of rapture territory.
If you've been watching since 2012, I would think you'd agree where we are. I can see why you're a bit apathetic, however, we're getting very close to blast off.
Most likely but 2025 is the year. Look up. Your salvation draws nighI'll get back to you on the 24th
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Wait a sec...But I thought Jesus IS God. How can Jesus not know what the Father knows?
Please look at the sources it uses. I've done extensive research and haven't found a Jewish source. Google AI doesn't count as a source.
Do they need to? It's not for them. What they need to know is about the trib and how its their last chance to turn to Christ.
This doesn't have anything to do with your argument that God told Noah, when my response was, he didn't tell Lot. Since the reference to Lot was used to describe the return of Christ, it still applies that God didn't tell Lot.
Again, assuming he "has" to come back in any time frame which I don't agree he "has" to since this isn't scriptural.
I'm not actually, I'm just tired of people being false prophets and going against scripture.
Ohhhh...so they have to tell each other things? Because they don't know what the other one is thinking I guess?
Sorry. But that was funny. I guess there are some things we just can’t comprehend.
Oh, you're one of those.
So they can have a chance to get saved.
So Jesus isn't coming back? Wow! Why are you replying in this thread?
I posted an article to discuss. No need to reply if you're tired. Thank though.
A person who doesn't accept google AI because it gets its data from places like Reddit? Sure, I guess I'll be one of "those" people. Truth is important to me so I'll make sure I get info from correct sources.
So telling them about the church leaving is somehow going to want them to change instead of the death and destruction of the trib? That... is so backwards...
(sigh) That's not what I said... re-read again. Follow the thread here with what you said and what I said... the topic is that your argument that Jesus's death year has any relevance to when he specifically returns because the idea is that he "has" to at the 2,000 year mark. I'm saying that isn't scriptural.
Yes, I'm tired of people also following false prophets too, hence why I replied. But you're free to follow them if you want, just as I'm free to post my opinion. Now that we've cleared that up....
