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Trump says suspect in custody in killing of Charlie Kirk

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That's not what truth is stranger than fiction means. It means a particular event is so bizarre or astounding, that it sounds made up but it's true.
No, because someone can always concoct a lie that is stranger than truth, but why would they? The purpose of a lie is to be believed.
In the case of many Charlie Kirk mini-debates with college students, they'd make a statement about something they didn't know enough about, and Charlie would take it apart with facts. So that's were truth would win out over malarky. The challenger would issue a fallacious statement, Charlie would take it apart with the truth, and the challenger would be left stammering or they'd issue a personal insult and walk away.
"Something they didn't know enough about" is not necessarily a lie. Someone can easily not know enough about the truth and be confounded by a clever liar (Eve, for instance).
 
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This is not a very thorough analysis of the video.
If one part of the debate are free to just stack arguments whether they are true or not, that is just a (badly performed) gish gallop. There is still tax on tips and tax on overtime as well, the bill just made a portion of it deductible under some circumstances. It's disingenuous debating.
 
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The killer was radicalized by the left that is fact . Per his own family!
In this case “The Left” was one troubled young man. And “radicalized?” No free choice in the matter? Like ignorant little sheep?
 
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No, because someone can always concoct a lie that is stranger than truth, but why would they? The purpose of a lie is to be believed.
True but the definition of the phrase"truth stanger than fiction" is: an expression that means real-life events can be more bizarre, unusual, or unbelievable than even the wildest fictional stories
"Something they didn't know enough about" is not necessarily a lie. Someone can easily not know enough about the truth and be confounded by a clever liar (Eve, for instance).
The word I used is "malarkey". Which is closer to "nonsense" than "lie". Often Kirk's challengers would confront him with erroneous misinformation they believed to be true. And being like a human encyclopedia, Charlie would dismantle them.
 
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Is threats of physical violence now progressive protected free speech?
Under Critical Theory, it's moral for the Oppressed class to threaten physical violence against the Oppressor class.
 
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The word I used is "malarkey". Which is closer to "nonsense" than "lie". Often Kirk's challengers would confront him with erroneous misinformation they believed to be true. And being like a human encyclopedia, Charlie would dismantle them.

How do you know it's misinformation rather than someone who didn't know enough about the subject to successfully debate a skilled liar?

Why, only because you chose to believe the one who may merely have been a skilled liar.
 
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And being like a human encyclopedia, Charlie would dismantle them.
Or spew a large quantity of his own erroneous misinformation that they were not prepared to counter. Same difference, really. :rolleyes:
 
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How do you know it's misinformation rather than someone who didn't know enough about the subject to successfully debate a skilled liar?
Because Kirk took it apart with facts and if they weren't demonstrating much skill. They were 20s US college students after all.
Why, only because you chose to believe the one who may merely have been a skilled liar.
Facts are easy enough to verify. There were a lot of very knowledgeable people who respected Kirk. I doubt they would have if he was a liar. Unless you want to start going into conspiracy theory territory that they were all in on it or whatever.
 
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Or spew a large quantity of his own erroneous misinformation that they were not prepared to counter. Same difference, really. :rolleyes:
Again, there are extremely knowledgeable people who respected young Kirk and admired his level of knowledge.
 
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Again, there are extremely knowledgeable people who respected young Kirk and admired his level of knowledge.
Okay? Fortunately I have eyes and ears, I don't need to take the word of these supposed "extremely knowledgeable" people on this.
 
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