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I agree that google TRULY sucks (, I tend to get cnn, fox...and then UK news sources in my list)
I feel that proper mental health supports for THIS guy would have done a LOT more for him than a "justice system that keeps bad people off the streets".
Are you deliberately ignoring this guy's record of arrests or are you just ignorant of them?
Are you deliberately ignoring all of my previous posts where I addressed his record?
Nobody has argued that. You guys just keep refusing to read our comments and engage with what we've written, instead, apparently, preferring to infer whatever most effectively fuels your sanctimony.
Instead of quote mining my post, try reading the facts about the guy I laid out for you.
Judges can adjudicate someone as mentally ill and sentence them to time in a mental health facility. Whenever a person is said to be "incompetent to stand trial", they just get sent to a mental health facility.
Mental health is something that keeps getting brought up here. If he would have had a mental health evaluation at some point, such as during all that time he was in prison, it could have been revealed that he remained in danger to the public. Even his own mother said that he needed to be locked up. But she was ignored, and now a woman is dead. Maybe it's time to start listening.Nobody has argued that. You guys just keep refusing to read our comments and engage with what we've written, instead, apparently, preferring to infer whatever most effectively fuels your sanctimony.
I'll put a finer point on this so you guys can maybe, finally, understand what I'm getting at. Here's the USA Today story Aldebaran cited in post 59:
Charlotte train stabbing suspect had a long criminal history
As politicians present competing explanations for the killing, many Americans grapple with a simple question: How could this happen?www.usatoday.com
From that article:
When he was 22, Brown was charged in at least four separate cases that included shoplifting, larceny, breaking and entering and felony conspiracy. Court records show he was convicted of all of those charges except conspiracy.Less than a year later, Brown pulled a gun on a man in the middle of the day at a Charlotte apartment complex and robbed him of his cellphone and $450. Brown pleaded guilty as part of a plea deal and a judge sentenced him to serve between six and eight years in prison.Prison records show Brown spent six years in prison, followed by a year of probation.His next court case came in January this year, when court records say Brown was at a hospital and someone called police about him. When they arrived, that's when records say Brown told them someone gave him a "manmade material" that was controlling him.
Brown is 34 now, so that stuff in the first two sentence - the shoplifting, larceny, B&E, and pulling a gun - all of that happened 11-12 years ago. He did 6 years in prison + a year of probation. So, rough math would have him finishing his probation about 4 years ago. He had no other court cases until January of this year, with the bogus 911 call.
None of you guys moaning about this have laid out where in all of this he should have been jailed for longer and why. I have never said he shouldn't have been institutionalized because he's crazy. I think it would be great if we had stronger mental health systems in this country that make it easier for people to get help (including involuntary commitment). What I'm trying to point out is that none of you guys have a theory for how this was supposed to work, either. In all of your righteous indignation, you never bothered to sit down and tried to see where things actually went wrong.
You tell me - should he have been jailed for 9+ months for the bogus phone call in January? Should he have been jailed for more than 12 years for the stuff he did when he was 22-23? What is it that you think should have been done other than "something"?
I've asked multiple times now, in multiple threads, which offense of his should have resulted in a longer sentence that would've prevented this and not one of you has had an answer. All you've done is whine, because it's easier to point the finger than it is to actually think about something and devise and answer, or to realize that maybe there isn't a good answer.
I looked up a notable one in my state, but couldn't find info on who runs it.
No we are hearing them loud and clear. A known mentally ill violent felon was NOT kept in prison and NOT sent to a mental health ward. He should not have been loose. We DON'T care how long ago he was set free.
Yes, by the time he committed those crimes he had shown himself to be a very bad man. At that point he should have gotten 50 years.
What facts have I ignored? What justice system have I defended?
