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Those who advocate for abortion do not value human life and tend to justify violence and murder as long as it happens to those whose existence they deem inconvenient.
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Very few pro-choice advocates actually promote abortion. They believe the state doesn't have an interest, or right, to interfere in a woman's reproductive healthcare, especially in an area that involves bodily autonomy. That's different from actually endorsing abortion. It is a stance advocating for limited government and personal agency.
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The people who have abortions, perform abortions, make pills to cause abortions, etc., do not value human life. Those who support a woman’s so-called right to kill her child do not value human life. Those who turn a blind eye to this do not value human life. So why care about Charlie Kirk or Iryna Zarutska? They are just as disposable as an unborn child.
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Hold the on. You were only just explaining how you not caring about abortion meant that Kirk’s death was just meh.
Something smells fishy here…..
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This kind of rhetoric is not only illogical, it's irresponsible. I am afraid there isn't any hope for honest dialog about this issue, in light of that.
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If the "choice" in "pro-choice" is whether to murder a child in the womb or not - then they are supporting or advocating for the murder of a child in a womb.
If I was "pro-choice" in regard to the State being able to execute certain criminals according to the severity of their crimes - then I would be supporting or advocating for capital punishment.
The different would be that the criminals choose to commit the crimes for which they are being executed - while innocent children in the womb have made no choice.
Abortion is not "reproductive healthcare" - it is the greatest sin supported and advocated by the State and self-centered and narcissistic evil people.
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The exact opposite is true. Those who love God love life and are in mourning. Those who don't - don't and aren't. Godless people rejoice in death.
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Incorrect. Some are. Some couldn’t care less. Seems that even more care even less about the kids who’s faces get shot to bits in schools because America (an atypically conservative and religious country) refuse to do anything about it.
A person making blanket statements about whole swathes of society is the highest order of bigotry. Christians and non-Christians alike are individuals with differing views are morals and beliefs. Please see beyond categories.
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Murder is murder ( Matthew 5:21-22); it is understood that those who assassinated Charlie Kirk must be properly tried & convicted. Abortion is spiritually murder but complicated & difficult to sort out secularly. Most people who have an abortion are not murderers at heart. We have to try to carefully balance this out preaching justice and mercy ( Micah 6:6-8) & forgiveness ( John 8:1-11).
Roe v Wade was socially manageable but leftists promoted outright murder with partial birth abortions ( beyond the limits within Roe v Wade). The other response was to overturn Roe altogether. The result is a mess.
Roe v Wade was socially manageable but leftists promoted outright murder with partial birth abortions ( beyond the limits within Roe v Wade). The other response was to overturn Roe altogether. The result is a mess.
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Abortion has a fundamental cause in this day and hour.
God is raising up an army of believers to bring the gospel to the world, and this generation is crucial to that work.
The devil knows this, and he is killing as many of these warriors in the womb before they are born. Over one billion, some say up to one and a half billion, humans have been murdered in the wombs of their mothers since the 70s. There is no doubt in my mind that there are millions of demonic spirits dedicated to this cause.
If abortion existed in 04 BC, I suspect that half the population of Israel would have been aborted in an effort to kill Him.
God is raising up an army of believers to bring the gospel to the world, and this generation is crucial to that work.
The devil knows this, and he is killing as many of these warriors in the womb before they are born. Over one billion, some say up to one and a half billion, humans have been murdered in the wombs of their mothers since the 70s. There is no doubt in my mind that there are millions of demonic spirits dedicated to this cause.
If abortion existed in 04 BC, I suspect that half the population of Israel would have been aborted in an effort to kill Him.
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Abortion did exist & must have been understood implicitly in the Lord’s commandments ( Exodus 20:13). The early church understood the commandment as such in the earliest surviving ( about 90 AD) manual:
And the second commandment of the Teaching; You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, Exodus 20:13-14 you shall not commit pederasty, you shall not commit fornication, you shall not steal, Exodus 20:15 you shall not practice magic, you shall not practice witchcraft, you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is begotten
CHURCH FATHERS: The Didache
Featuring the Church Fathers, Catholic Encyclopedia, Summa Theologica and more.
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