The Left belittles prayer. Are they right?

Michie · Sunday at 8:21 AM

Last week, the shooter in Minneapolis of little children in a Catholic church-school during mass was discovered to have written on one of his weapons, “Where is your god [sic].” He used a picture of Jesus on his target in practice before the big day of shooting last Wednesday.

And now the left says to us in effect: “Don’t pray, just prey.” The last part refers to allowing unfettered evil to flourish — to continue to prey on the weak and vulnerable.

As Gary Bauer noted last Thursday: “Satan wrote the script for the atrocities that transpired yesterday at a Minneapolis Catholic church and school. The transgender shooter’s message, ‘Where’s your God now,’ wasn’t referring to Allah. It was referring to the God of the Bible, the God Catholics, Jews, and Protestants worship. The only God, by the way. ‘Where’s your God now’ was Satan mocking God.”

It’s amazing to see how swift the condemnation from the Left was against even the idea of prayers — as if prayers alone were the solution offered to try and stop these things. They do hint at the solution: to get back to the knowledge of God, the one who is there and who will hold us all accountable one day.

As to the condemnation of prayer, consider these examples:

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frei, who almost single-handedly destroyed his city in the wake of the George Floyd riots, spoke of prayer as if it were nothing. After all, the children in the church-school were literally playing when the bullets began to fly.

Continued below.

The Left belittles prayer. Are they right?

I think we have no clue how many times God spares us from the complete ravages of sinful attempts to kill

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FreeinChrist · Sunday at 12:07 PM

That is such a lie, and a flame to all the Left.

Most I know on the Left feel prayer is important, and thoughts - but it is not enough. It is like God is saying, "DO something and I will bless it." He expects us to act. We could enact common sense gun laws for example. We could make the gun owner legally liable for the actions of the one using it - such as the parents who don't adequately lock up their guns or the ones who give their troubled teen a gun. We could stop the sale of the part that turns a simpler gun into a repeater. (Can't think of the name).

bèlla · Sunday at 12:22 PM

Prayer is action and the wisest precursor for success. Doing has a place but isn’t a guarantee. There’s a reason laws haven’t been passed. There’s too much resistance. When that’s the case you usually need supernatural intervention to move the needle. This is where prayer warriors, intercessors and fasting come into play. You see this demonstrated often in the bible.

If you place the bulk of your focus on doing you’ll always fall short and Paul explained why that’s so.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood [contending only with physical opponents], but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this [present] darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly (supernatural) places.

~bella

Tuur · Monday at 5:54 AM

FreeinChrist said:
That is such a lie, and a flame to all the Left.

Most I know on the Left feel prayer is important, and thoughts - but it is not enough. It is like God is saying, "DO something and I will bless it." He expects us to act. We could enact common sense gun laws for example. We could make the gun owner legally liable for the actions of the one using it - such as the parents who don't adequately lock up their guns or the ones who give their troubled teen a gun. We could stop the sale of the part that turns a simpler gun into a repeater. (Can't think of the name).

By your words, the prayer of a leftist is like the Aesop fable of the man who prayed to Hercules about his broken wagon, and Hercules came and made the man fix it. It's the implication that prayer is only effective if we ourselves act to answer it. Meanwhile, I saw God keep me and my family safe when a hurricane went where it wasn't forecast, and there was absolutely nothing we could do with our own hands to accomplish that.

So, of course, the left screeches that "Oh, it's all these wicked guns that leap into hands and make people do terrible things." All these magic guns. Magic they must be, for it's the gun that's treated as the cause and not the wickedness in the heart of the one who uses them for evil. So it is that the "solution" is to prevent people from owning firearms and never once asking why someone thought it was proper to gun down their fellowman.

Here is the terrible truth: The cause behind these incidents is the spiritual condition of the heart of the one who does them. That being the case, someone so inclined will seek out any means of doing so. Not having one means does not preclude having another. The only thing that prevents that is to change the spiritual condition of the heart, and that is beyond the power of any man or woman or law. That can only come from God.

Odd that the one thing the Left doesn't want is a return to religious instruction in schools. Maybe I'm drawing a false correlation, but when we had such, these things didn't happen. But this, like prayer, isn't seen as a solution. You could put us all in prison-life hives where every aspect of our lives are regulated, and I guarantee someone would still shove a shive into someone's side, because none of that can change the heart.

Or perhaps the fear, deep down, is what God will do. The prayer "Your will be done" is a scary thing. When we invite God in, some things we might not want dealt with with be dealt with, if we're honest to Him.

Tropical Wilds · Monday at 6:08 AM

Michie said:
Last week, the shooter in Minneapolis of little children in a Catholic church-school during mass was discovered to have written on one of his weapons, “Where is your god [sic].” He used a picture of Jesus on his target in practice before the big day of shooting last Wednesday.

And now the left says to us in effect: “Don’t pray, just prey.” The last part refers to allowing unfettered evil to flourish — to continue to prey on the weak and vulnerable.

As Gary Bauer noted last Thursday: “Satan wrote the script for the atrocities that transpired yesterday at a Minneapolis Catholic church and school. The transgender shooter’s message, ‘Where’s your God now,’ wasn’t referring to Allah. It was referring to the God of the Bible, the God Catholics, Jews, and Protestants worship. The only God, by the way. ‘Where’s your God now’ was Satan mocking God.”

It’s amazing to see how swift the condemnation from the Left was against even the idea of prayers — as if prayers alone were the solution offered to try and stop these things. They do hint at the solution: to get back to the knowledge of God, the one who is there and who will hold us all accountable one day.

As to the condemnation of prayer, consider these examples:

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frei, who almost single-handedly destroyed his city in the wake of the George Floyd riots, spoke of prayer as if it were nothing. After all, the children in the church-school were literally playing when the bullets began to fly.

Continued below.

The Left belittles prayer. Are they right?

I think we have no clue how many times God spares us from the complete ravages of sinful attempts to kill

www.christianpost.com

I have not heard a single person belittle prayer. None of these “examples” even show somebody mocking prayer. The closest I heard is people pointing out that if shootings were the result of lack of God in schools and these kids were literally praying, what’s the excuse going to be this time.

I’m absolutely positive that people mock prayer, but (especially with this story), it’s not even close to being widespread or standard. This is just one of the articles written to feed the “Liberals are what you should fear and hate” narrative so many use as a crutch for all things.

Tropical Wilds · Monday at 6:15 AM

Tuur said:
By your words, the prayer of a leftist is like the Aesop fable of the man who prayed to Hercules about his broken wagon, and Hercules came and made the man fix it. It's the implication that prayer is only effective if we ourselves act to answer it. Meanwhile, I saw God keep me and my family safe when a hurricane went where it wasn't forecast, and there was absolutely nothing we could do with our own hands to accomplish that.

So, of course, the left screeches that "Oh, it's all these wicked guns that leap into hands and make people do terrible things." All these magic guns. Magic they must be, for it's the gun that's treated as the cause and not the wickedness in the heart of the one who uses them for evil. So it is that the "solution" is to prevent people from owning firearms and never once asking why someone thought it was proper to gun down their fellowman.

Here is the terrible truth: The cause behind these incidents is the spiritual condition of the heart of the one who does them. That being the case, someone so inclined will seek out any means of doing so. Not having one means does not preclude having another. The only thing that prevents that is to change the spiritual condition of the heart, and that is beyond the power of any man or woman or law. That can only come from God.

Odd that the one thing the Left doesn't want is a return to religious instruction in schools. Maybe I'm drawing a false correlation, but when we had such, these things didn't happen. But this, like prayer, isn't seen as a solution. You could put us all in prison-life hives where every aspect of our lives are regulated, and I guarantee someone would still shove a shive into someone's side, because none of that can change the heart.

Or perhaps the fear, deep down, is what God will do. The prayer "Your will be done" is a scary thing. When we invite God in, some things we might not want dealt with with be dealt with, if we're honest to Him.

This was a school that had religious instruction, and the gunman had ties to it. In fact, that is a pretty common theme in religious school shootings.

But hey, if you want religious instruction to return to schools, why not? Maybe people learning about the core tenants of Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Wicca/Paganism, and other religions will bring some perspective to people who lack worldviews outside of their own.

Tuur · Monday at 11:22 AM

Tropical Wilds said:
This was a school that had religious instruction, and the gunman had ties to it. In fact, that is a pretty common theme in religious school shootings.

But hey, if you want religious instruction to return to schools, why not? Maybe people learning about the core tenants of Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Wicca/Paganism, and other religions will bring some perspective to people who lack worldviews outside of their own.

Odd. If the goal is to reduce such incidents, then the place to correct it in the desire to do harm. God can change the human heart; laws cannot.

Tropical Wilds · Monday at 11:33 AM

Tuur said:
Odd. If the goal is to reduce such incidents, then the place to correct it in the desire to do harm. God can change the human heart; laws cannot.

By that logic, why have any laws at all? The solution to drunk driving is to remove the desire to drink... Go to God. The place to correct the desire to steal is God, not with laws to stealing... Go to God. The place to correct child abuse is to remove the desire to hurt children... Go to God.

FreeinChrist · Monday at 12:05 PM

Tuur said:
By your words, the prayer of a leftist is like the Aesop fable of the man who prayed to Hercules about his broken wagon, and Hercules came and made the man fix it. It's the implication that prayer is only effective if we ourselves act to answer it. Meanwhile, I saw God keep me and my family safe when a hurricane went where it wasn't forecast, and there was absolutely nothing we could do with our own hands to accomplish that.

Then you misunderstand (purposely?) my words. Prayer is great, but often the answer is to do something, too. Examples: Ten Alcoholics pray earnestly for God to remove their desire for alcohol. God removed one man's desire for it (I met a man who was instantly relieved of his desire for alcohol, after years of drinking) for HIs own purposes. The other 9 had answered prayer too - but it required that they do things like going to AA meetings and purposely staying away from alcohol and people who they drank with, and more prayer for strength and the intentional effort to grow in their walk with God. There is much to be learned in the fight against addiction and it requires effort on the part of the addicted.
Why God took the desire for it away from the one man, I don't know. He became a missionary.

We have many Christians praying about gun violence and it still happens a great deal. Perhaps it really is time to DO things.

Tuur · Monday at 6:14 PM

FreeinChrist said:
We have many Christians praying about gun violence and it still happens a great deal. Perhaps it really is time to DO things.

Restoring teaching about God in public is something, but apparently not the something some people seek.

Tuur · Monday at 6:29 PM

Tropical Wilds said:
By that logic, why have any laws at all? The solution to drunk driving is to remove the desire to drink... Go to God. The place to correct the desire to steal is God, not with laws to stealing... Go to God. The place to correct child abuse is to remove the desire to hurt children... Go to God.

it's currently against the law in all 50 US states, and in US territories, to commit murder. Yet we still have murders. At best, laws against murder serve to remove those who commit murder from society, usually by incarceration. As a deterrent to murder, maybe not so much. But even removing murderers from society does nothing to prevent the murder that hopefully they are arrested for soon after committing.

The most restrictive environment I can think of is a prison. And yet I saw where prison murders are soaring in the State of Georgia this year. I found one article on the Atlanta Journal Constitution, but it's behind a pay wall. That alone shows that if someone is willing to murder, they'll do so by whatever means they can. If you can deal with that desire to murder, then you deal with the problem of murder regardless of the means it's committed.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-09-09T15:54:15-0500

Michie said:
Last week, the shooter in Minneapolis of little children in a Catholic church-school during mass was discovered to have written on one of his weapons, “Where is your god [sic].” He used a picture of Jesus on his target in practice before the big day of shooting last Wednesday.

And now the left says to us in effect: “Don’t pray, just prey.” The last part refers to allowing unfettered evil to flourish — to continue to prey on the weak and vulnerable.

As Gary Bauer noted last Thursday: “Satan wrote the script for the atrocities that transpired yesterday at a Minneapolis Catholic church and school. The transgender shooter’s message, ‘Where’s your God now,’ wasn’t referring to Allah. It was referring to the God of the Bible, the God Catholics, Jews, and Protestants worship. The only God, by the way. ‘Where’s your God now’ was Satan mocking God.”

It’s amazing to see how swift the condemnation from the Left was against even the idea of prayers — as if prayers alone were the solution offered to try and stop these things. They do hint at the solution: to get back to the knowledge of God, the one who is there and who will hold us all accountable one day.

As to the condemnation of prayer, consider these examples:

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frei, who almost single-handedly destroyed his city in the wake of the George Floyd riots, spoke of prayer as if it were nothing. After all, the children in the church-school were literally playing when the bullets began to fly.

Continued below.

The Left belittles prayer. Are they right?

I think we have no clue how many times God spares us from the complete ravages of sinful attempts to kill

www.christianpost.com

“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."

Over the past fifty years, there has been a noticeable emphasis among some Christians in America on public prayer—in schools, at political events, and even during sports games. However, such practices are not necessarily rooted in biblical teachings. As a born-again Christian, I pray regularly: when I wake up, while waiting at a coffee shop, standing in line at the grocery store, or during activities like walking, driving, or exercising at the YMCA. My prayers are private because I seek to communicate only with God, and He hears my prayer no matter where I am. .

My question is: If a Christian wishes to pray, what prevents them from doing so? Why should Christians be concerned about the opinions of liberal lefty or heathen democrat’s views regarding prayer, or about when and where those individuals believe Christians ought to pray?

If a Christian decides to pray, it is recommended that they do so with sincerity and respect, following the teachings of Jesus, which emphasize not announcing their prayers publicly.

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