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The Conjunction of Opposites
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“And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.”
Romans 8:28 NASB2020
Romans 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
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“No one is to say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.”
James 1:13 NASB2020
James 1:13 No one is to say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now
No one is to say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.
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““The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and just is He.”
Deuteronomy 32:4 NASB2020
Deuteronomy 32:4 “The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and just is He. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now
“The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and just is He.
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What does scripture say?
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Everything terrifying is, in its deepest being,
something helpless that wants our love
Rilke, from the Ninth Duino Elegy (tr. Stephen Mitchell)
something helpless that wants our love
Rilke, from the Ninth Duino Elegy (tr. Stephen Mitchell)
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This is not a throwaway line; it’s Rilke’s metaphysical pivot. He is suggesting that our vocation is to transform dread into tenderness — to recognize that what frightens us is not alien, but a part of being crying out for our embrace.
That’s why it resonates so powerfully with Jung: both men see terror, shadow, and monstrosity not as enemies to be destroyed but as estranged kin to be acknowledged and integrated.
That’s why it resonates so powerfully with Jung: both men see terror, shadow, and monstrosity not as enemies to be destroyed but as estranged kin to be acknowledged and integrated.
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You are straying from inspired scripture. Neither Jung or Rilke are inspired reading.
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Annoying how people have this tendency not to read just one book.
I think that's what they call "literacy".
Ah well. I can proof text with the rest of them:
Matthew 5:44 — “But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.”
Romans 12:20–21 — “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink… Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.”
1 John 4:18 — “There is no fear in love. But perfect love casts out fear, because fear has to do with punishment.”
Psalm 103:13–14 — “As a father has compassion for his children, so the Lord has compassion for those who fear him. For he knows how we are formed, he remembers that we are dust.”
Ezekiel 16 (the abandoned infant parable): Israel is pictured as a helpless child “thrown out into the open field… you were naked and bare,” and God says, “I passed by you and saw you kicking about in your blood, and I said to you, ‘Live!’”
Mark 5:1–20 (the Gerasene demoniac): A terrifying, possessed man lives among tombs. Yet when Jesus confronts him, what surfaces is not power but desperate helplessness (“What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High?”). Healing comes not by destruction but by restoration.
Luke 23:34 — “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”
Even those committing a terrifying act (crucifying Christ) are revealed as fundamentally blind, helpless, and in need of love.
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Kathleen30
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Colo you think upon the Ying & Yang concept. In some ways they do agree. As with femininity and masculinity they do melt into one along with Beauty the Beast. As to Light and darkness proceeding from the same source as an equal balance. I would say no . For there is no darkness within the God. For God is light. God can never be associated with evil though he may use evil for whatever purpose of his choosing.
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Biblical witness suggests:
What appears terrifying often conceals vulnerability (the enemy is hungry, the persecutor is blind, the sinner is mere dust).
The divine call is not to destroy terror with terror, but to unmask its helplessness and respond with compassion.
In Christ, the ultimate terror (death) itself is embraced and transformed into life.
What appears terrifying often conceals vulnerability (the enemy is hungry, the persecutor is blind, the sinner is mere dust).
The divine call is not to destroy terror with terror, but to unmask its helplessness and respond with compassion.
In Christ, the ultimate terror (death) itself is embraced and transformed into life.
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Christ is not about human death.
The resurrection at the end of time is about human death.
Christ is about spiritual death and enmity against God of the whole human race, as the consequence of Adam's rebellion against God.
Faith in Christ and his atoning work is about removal of the spiritual death caused by Adam's rebellion and about the granting of spiritual (God's) life.
In Christ, the ultimate terror (damnation in eternal separation from God) is removed and replaced with felicity in God.
A more Biblical mind is called for here.
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But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready.
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Well the one from Isaiah saying that the Lord brings "ra", calamity, I would consider to be a traditionally "difficult" verse, for example.
As I stated above I don't really buy the rabbis' distinction between "disaster" and "evil".
As I stated above I don't really buy the rabbis' distinction between "disaster" and "evil".
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Are you assuming all mankind is innocent before God until proven guilty?
Or do you believe that all those of Adam are born enemies of God (Ro 5:10) by nature (Eph 2:3), guilty of the imputed sin of Adam (Ro 5:14,17), which was the pattern (Ro 5:14) for all those of Christ being imputed with the righteousness of Christ (Ro 5:18-19)?
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I don't think child leukemia is an instance of the justice of God, if that's what you're getting at, no.
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