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Trump to sign order renaming Pentagon 'Department of War': Sources

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I'm asking you why it should be changed back. Why do you think they're reverting back to this old, outdated name?

To go along with their old, outdated ideas on everything else like tariffs, the confederacy, gender equality, spoils/patronage, territorial conquest, government accountability and oversight, and personal fitness. Seems pretty on brand to me.

I think it reflects more accurately what that department does. It has some defensive components but is mostly about projecting offensive capabilities around the world.

huh, I can actually buy that argument. This could be a case of Trump’s juvenile tendencies aligning with those of the cynics.
 
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Where is the money to implement this change coming from? We don't have enough, they say, to afford universal health care for all citizens but we're willing to spend millions billions on a stupid name change?

 
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That's inaccurate in two ways. The current Department of Defense was never the Department of War. The War department is now the Department of the Army. In addition, the Department of War existed for around 160 years, not over 200.
The United States Department of War, also known as the War Department, was a cabinet-level agency responsible for the operation and maintenance of the U.S. military from its creation in 1789 until its dissolution in 1947. Led by a civilian Secretary of War, the department oversaw military affairs, finance, and procurement. It was the predecessor to the modern Department of Defense.

 
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The United States Department of War, also known as the War Department, was a cabinet-level agency responsible for the operation and maintenance of the U.S. military from its creation in 1789 until its dissolution in 1947. Led by a civilian Secretary of War, the department oversaw military affairs, finance, and procurement. It was the predecessor to the modern Department of Defense.

That site's explanation is a little simplistic. While the modern Department of Defense does the job of the old Department of War, it also has further responsibilities and branches that weren't part of the DoW's purview. The Department of War only managed the Army (and the Army Air Force). DoD covers the Army, Air Force, Navy (which was an independent department when the Department of War existed), Joint Chiefs, and a whole host of defense agencies (DARPA, NRO, Missile Defense, NSA, DIA, etc).

In other words, DoD is a separate umbrella agency that incorporated the old Department of War, plus some extra stuff.

Also, 1947-1789=158
 
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Renaming seems fitting since war is one of our key exports occupying so much of our budget. :cool:
We could open the War-Store, (Weapons-Я-US!?), sell openly and oftenly and rake in the dough to help the other nations wage their own wars!?
”Like a business”, we were told.
 
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We could open the War-Store, (Weapons-Я-US!?), sell openly and oftenly and rake in the dough to help the other nations wage their own wars!?
”Like a business”, we were told.
We already do that, as one of the prime arms merchant countries on the planet. We've done it that way since WWII. Don't pretend otherwise, which calling the DOW (which it really is) the DOD (nicer sounding name) is all about.
 
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The formal renaming of the department would require Congress to act

We’re just going to do it. I’m sure Congress will go along if we need that. I don’t think we even need that,” Trump said last month.
Welcome to “Who’s Line is it Anyway?” where the rules are made up and the points don’t matter.
 
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What should be changed is the Department of the Interior to the Department of the Exterior, since it's in charge of everything outdoors.
It’s better than the proposed name change it “Department of Hey Everybody, Look Over Here.”
 
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What is one good reason for the name change?

Recently I was informed that changing things is woke.

Why is Trump promoting wokeism?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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The formal renaming of the department would require Congress to act

We’re just going to do it. I’m sure Congress will go along if we need that. I don’t think we even need that,” Trump said last month.

"Department of War" is what I call the bathroom after a night eating Arby's.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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"Department of War" is what I call the bathroom after a night eating Arby's.

-CryptoLutheran
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