Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 5:35 PM

friend of said:
Maybe you don't know this, but hard drugs destroy lives.

Don’t talk to me like I’m a child. It’s insulting.

Maybe you don’t know this (or you just don’t care) but suspected drug dealers and traffickers and anyone accused of a crime also have rights and protections under our laws. That’s what makes us better than the terrorists.

friend of said:
The people operating the vessel were drug smugglers who are guilty of that which I just mentioned.

Are they?

How did you determine their guilt?

Or do you just believe whatever the government says?

Vambram · Friday at 5:49 PM

wing2000 said:
...if the Secretary of the "War Department" orders the National Guard to kill suspected drug traffickers on American streets, will they too have "deserved it."?

Can't you see where this is going?

Americans have different legal rights than foreigners narco terrorists cartels. But, if you want to continue to surrender to the narco cartels of Mexico and Venezuela, please by all means, be my guest. On the other hand, I believe that the narco cartels responsible for killing more Americans than WW1 & WW2 must be destroyed.

Vambram · Friday at 5:52 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
Is that what Christ would say?

Christ talked more about hell than He spoke about heaven.

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 5:57 PM

Vambram said:
Christ talked more about hell than He spoke about heaven.

Would he say people deserve to die?

friend of · Friday at 5:57 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
Maybe you don’t know this (or you just don’t care) but suspected drug dealers and traffickers and anyone accused of a crime also have rights and protections under our laws. That’s what makes us better than the terrorists

Terrorists have no rights except the right to die immediately.

GoldenBoy89 said:
Are they?

How did you determine their guilt?

Or do you just believe whatever the government says?

They were people, on a vessel, a vessel filled with drugs, a vessel filled with drugs that they were on, which makes them drug smugglers and the newly minted designation of terrorist. What else would they be?

GoldenBoy89 said:
Don’t talk to me like I’m a child. It’s insulting

My apologies. You just come off as having a charmed life, since you seem to be unaware of how drugs ruin countless lives.

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 5:59 PM

Vambram said:
Americans have different legal rights than foreigners narco terrorists cartels.

I agree. Now, how do we tell them apart?

Who is an American and who is a foreigner narco terrorist cartel? How do you know?

essentialsaltes · Friday at 6:03 PM

wing2000 said:
...if the Secretary of the "War Department" orders the National Guard to kill suspected drug traffickers on American streets, will they too have "deserved it."?

Can't you see where this is going?

Trump's old pal Duterte is facing the International Criminal Court for where that went.

On March 11, 2025, former Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte was arrested by the Philippine National Police and Interpol in Operation Pursuit[1] under an International Criminal Court (ICC) warrant charging him with crimes against humanity related to the Philippine drug war.

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 6:03 PM

friend of said:
Terrorists have no rights except the right to die immediately.

Geez. And you call yourself a Christian? I bet you’re “pro life” too.

friend of said:
They were people, on a vessel, a vessel filled with drugs,

How do you know they had drugs?

friend of said:
a vessel filled with drugs that they were on, which makes them drug smugglers and the newly minted designation of terrorist. What else would they be?

Fishermen? Migrants? People out enjoying a day on the water? Lots of people use boats. Not just international terrorists and drug traffickers.

friend of said:
My apologies.

Not accepted.

friend of said:
You just come off as having a charmed life, since you seem to be unaware of how drugs ruin countless lives.

And you come off as bloodthirsty. Maybe take a break from the internet? Get some fresh air. This is a really bad look for some of you.

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 6:05 PM

essentialsaltes said:
Trump's old pal Duterte is facing the International Criminal Court for where that went.

On March 11, 2025, former Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte was arrested by the Philippine National Police and Interpol in Operation Pursuit[1] under an International Criminal Court (ICC) warrant charging him with crimes against humanity related to the Philippine drug war.

lol nothing Trump does is ever original or innovative.

friend of · Friday at 6:05 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
Geez. And you call yourself a Christian? I bet you’re “pro life” too.

I just believe in the God-given right to self-defense.

GoldenBoy89 · Friday at 6:08 PM

friend of said:
I just believe in the God-given right to self-defense.

Where did God say it’s ok to preemptively blow up a boat in international waters if the occupants are suspected drug traffickers?

Juvenal · Friday at 6:41 PM

As a point of information, Venezuela is not a significant source of fentanyl.

Is Venezuela Flooding the U.S. With Drugs? Here’s What to Know.

Venezuela plays virtually no role in the fentanyl trade.

Fentanyl is almost entirely produced in Mexico with chemicals imported from China, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, the Justice Department and the Congressional Research Service. Mexico is close to the U.S. market, and Mexican cartels already control many fentanyl smuggling routes.

There is no proof that it is manufactured or trafficked from Venezuela or anywhere else in South America.

While U.S. cocaine sometimes shows traces of fentanyl, according to the D.E.A. and academic studies, experts say any mixing would happen in Mexico or inside the United States, not in South America.

Aryeh Jay · Friday at 7:07 PM

essentialsaltes said:
Trump's old pal Duterte is facing the International Criminal Court for where that went.

On March 11, 2025, former Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte was arrested by the Philippine National Police and Interpol in Operation Pursuit[1] under an International Criminal Court (ICC) warrant charging him with crimes against humanity related to the Philippine drug war.

If only the Philippines had nuclear weapons.

Desk trauma · Friday at 7:16 PM

Aryeh Jay said:
If only the Philippines had nuclear weapons.

Tonga. Tonga needs nuclear weapons.

Vambram · Friday at 7:42 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
Would he say people deserve to die?

Yes. We are all sinners and all of deserve to go to hell. That's why Jesus Christ died and was resurrected so that we can have forgiveness of sins through His mercy and grace.

Vambram · Friday at 7:45 PM

GoldenBoy89 said:
I agree. Now, how do we tell them apart?

Who is an American and who is a foreigner narco terrorist cartel? How do you know?

The boat which was attacked and destroyed was literally tracked leaving Venezuela.
But, please continue to fight for the rights of the narco cartels if that is what you want to do.

iluvatar5150 · Friday at 8:00 PM

Vambram said:
The boat which was attacked and destroyed was literally tracked leaving Venezuela.

lol, nobody questioned where it came from. It’s like you’re being deliberately obtuse.

rambot · Friday at 8:53 PM

friend of said:
Doesn't even matter. Proactive self defense is justification enough.

Ah yes. The biblical call to murder. I remember that verse too

rambot · Friday at 8:55 PM

Vambram said:
Americans have different legal rights than foreigners narco terrorists cartels. But, if you want to continue to surrender to the narco cartels of Mexico and Venezuela, please by all means, be my guest. On the other hand, I believe that the narco cartels responsible for killing more Americans than WW1 & WW2 must be destroyed.

Not in international waters.

Clear your head man

DaisyDay · Friday at 9:12 PM

The Intercept: Pentagon Official: Trump Boat Strike Was a Criminal Attack on Civilians

The lethal strike on a boat in the Caribbean on Tuesday was a criminal attack on civilians, according to a high-ranking Pentagon official who spoke to the Intercept on the condition of anonymity.

...“The U.S. is now directly targeting civilians. Drug traffickers may be criminals but they aren’t combatants,” the Department of Defense official said. “When Trump fired the military’s top lawyers the rest saw the writing on the wall, and instead of being a critical firebreak they are now a rubber stamp complicit in this crime.”

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth offered his own justification for the strike the same day. “Every boatload of any form of drug that poisons the American people is an imminent threat. And at the DoD our job is to defeat imminent threats,” he told a group of journalists. “A foreign terrorist organization poisoning your people with drugs coming from a drug cartel is no different than Al Qaeda, and they will be treated as such as they were in international waters.”

Two U.S. government officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that Hegseth’s justification – which one called “completely unserious” – took shape after the attack.

Experts said Hegseth’s rationale was flimsy, if not farcical....

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