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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2)

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Black is white; good is bad; day is night. Jabberwocky.
Killing people and ruining the lives of the countless many is what terrorists do. I guess you sympathize with chaos.
 
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Yeah, you’re absolutely right. I support due process. Like the law requires.

You apparently believe whatever this lying government claims. How do you know the people on that boat were guilty of any alleged crimes? How do you know this wasn’t just plain old murder of 11 innocent people?
I am willing to bet that if President Clinton, President Obama, or President Biden had ordered this perfectly justified attack against narco terrorists, there would not be any outrage or pushback from the liberals.
 
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I am willing to bet that if President Clinton, President Obama, or President Biden had ordered this perfectly justified attack against narco terrorists, there would not be any outrage or pushback from the liberals.

I'm willing to bet no former President would have ordered the military to kill suspected drug traffickers like dogs on the street.
 
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I'm willing to bet no former President would have ordered the military to kill suspected drug traffickers like dogs on the street.
The narco cartels deserve to be killed.
 
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Yeah, you’re absolutely right. I support due process. Like the law requires.

You apparently believe whatever this lying government claims. How do you know the people on that boat were guilty of any alleged crimes? How do you know this wasn’t just plain old murder of 11 innocent people?

...or the some of the 11 may have been migratnts being trafficked...but hey, they're illegal immigrants so who cares....
 
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The narco cartels deserve to be killed.

...if the Secretary of the "War Department" orders the National Guard to kill suspected drug traffickers on American streets, will they too have "deserved it."?

Can't you see where this is going?
 
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I am willing to bet that if President Clinton, President Obama, or President Biden had ordered this perfectly justified attack against narco terrorists, there would not be any outrage or pushback from the liberals.
Who’s outraged? I’m glad this president is killing people without trial or reason. It’s a good reflection of the morality of those who voted for and continue to support him. The so called “pro life” crowd is happy to see people being killed.

Trump once said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any support. Yours and other comments here are a perfect example of that.
 
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You really can't fathom the reason?
No, and no valid reason has been given. I don’t even know any of the people killed were guilty of anything besides serving as a nice distraction to start the week.

But I do appreciate how eye opening this recent move has been in exposing the right for the total ethical bankruptcy they’ve adopted since January.
 
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No, and no valid reason has been given. I don’t even know any of the people killed were guilty of anything besides serving as a nice distraction to start the week.

But I do appreciate how eye opening this recent move has been in exposing the right for the total ethical bankruptcy they’ve adopted since January.
Maybe you don't know this, but hard drugs destroy lives. Traffickers of drugs indirectly (arguably directly) kill hundreds of people with their poison during their careers, and damage the lives of countless others by proximity. The people operating the vessel were drug smugglers who are guilty of that which I just mentioned. Maybe you are okay with drugs pouring into the USA killing and maiming countless lives, but I for one welcome a more proactive approach to this scourge.
 
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No, and no valid reason has been given. I don’t even know any of the people killed were guilty of anything besides serving as a nice distraction to start the week.

But I do appreciate how eye opening this recent move has been in exposing the right for the total ethical bankruptcy they’ve adopted since January.

since January? really?

Maybe you don't know this, but hard drugs destroy lives.
Maybe you don’t know this, but Trump & Co are neither honest, nor careful, nor omniscient. Again, the reason for due process is to make sure you got the right person.
 
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It is now.
That's healthy. Trump does it and now we change the definition of words.
Killing people and ruining the lives of the countless many is what terrorists do. I guess you sympathize with chaos.
You can just say you don't know the definition of terrorism.
I am willing to bet that if President Clinton, President Obama, or President Biden had ordered this perfectly justified attack against narco terrorists, there would not be any outrage or pushback from the liberals.
Fact is, NONE OF THEM DID THAT so we didn't have condemn them.

Here is Trump ACTUALLY doing it. And instead of condemning him for it, you are blaming liberals for even discussing it.

Enough with the false hypothetical equivalencies and just condemn the man if you want to take a principled integrity position. But if you are okay with extra judicial killings by Democrat OR Republican, then please feel free to continue arguing exactly as you do.

Trump once said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any support. Your comments are a perfect example of that.
It is....HULARIOUS to me that Trump supporters ever argued that this statement was ever anything but bang on.
 
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Technically no, though there were AUMF passed by Congress which have the same purpose. Those AUMFs were twisted into pretzels, but at least they existed. There is nothing like that currently in US law that can even be used as a fig leaf to justify this act.
Ah, the AUMF - the law which lets you break the law. Totally 1984.

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Maybe you don't know this, but hard drugs destroy lives. Traffickers of drugs indirectly (arguably directly) kill hundreds of people with their poison during their careers, and damage the lives of countless others by proximity. The people operating the vessel were drug smugglers who are guilty of that which I just mentioned. Maybe you are okay with drugs pouring into the USA killing and maiming countless lives, but I for one welcome a more proactive approach to this scourge.
Youth Pastors are a scourge. They are assaulting and raping the children in their congregations. They are a scourge. We DEFINITELY should not have trials for all those individuals who hurt children. We should just shoot them in the street.
 
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