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I've heard bad things about John Piper. I don't consider him a reputable Christian.
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Do you feel comfort from Isaiah 56?
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I've heard bad things about John Piper. I don't consider him a reputable Christian.
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I think he's saved but like, he has an odd theology, he even calls it "Christian Hedonism" and it almost views God the way a junkie views heroin. That staring at Jesus will get you so high you won't care about anything else.
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Wise post. You get it, sir.
I would say it is comforting b/c it's saying how we can tell God is favoring us, it isn't based on what he think it is. Remember: the Jews (& mankind to this day) think it's based on your family (or position in the world): God is saying here it's not. That makes me so happy!
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Also there's a lot of compromise involved. That's what marriage is. Usually that's a good thing. But what about when it comes to compromise on Biblical truth? When Paul says in a marriage you're divided, he's not talking about compromise on the color of the carpet.
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Unfortunately, even many Christians think that way.. Remember what comes out of the mouth is what corrupts the body. It's not just about cussing or slander. Talking about worldly things as if they are good things also corrupts.
I'm still far from perfect from not speaking of things (or against it) that corrupt but I'm trying my best.
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timewerx
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Many of the teachings of the Old Testament belongs to the past.
Otherwise Jesus wouldn't be saying it is better to be single. The ultimate reward that all of them considered is eternal life with the Lord.
We don't stone sinners to death anymore. It's not just a Gentile thing because even modern Jews don't stone sinners to death anymore either.
Many teachings of the OT are destructive if we continue doing them today. It elevates the importance of worldly wealth for example where the modern consequences (encourages accumulation of worldly wealth)are actually destructive to our planet.
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So you're saying God changes His mind?
God only forbid marriage and children in cases like Jeremiah where he'd be going through the siege of Jerusalem, and to some extent it was a mercy.
as for new testament, there are 2 reasons why the apostles would have preferred stay single:
1. They were to be traveling evangelists. Life on the road is no life for a wife and children, their needs would be neglected, setting up that conflict of interests Paul was talking about.
2. They expected Jesus to return in their lifetimes, Jesus professed that He did not know when He would return, only the Father knows, well it's been generations and generations and generations since.
If you thought the literal end of the world was happening in your lifetime, you'd be less apt to put children into that ending world.
That doesn't mean that marriage is not a good thing and having a family is not a good thing.
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You already answered your question there. It's situational.
Just like what Jesus did on the Sabbath. These rules/law's ultimate purpose is to serve a good purpose for people, not the other way around - people serving these laws, rules, commands, etc as if they're absolutes and can never change depending on situation.
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Well if your city is currently being sieged I'd agree with remaining single and childless, or if you are a traveling evangelist
but otherwise, it is not *better* to be single and childless in its own right. You're actually disqualified from being a pastor or bishop within the church by remaining a bachelor.
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