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There's no need to repeal the 2nd amendment to pass gun laws that can reduce firearm deaths in the US.
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Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis
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Gun registration is advocated so that the government knows who owns guns, with a future plan for gun confiscation in mind. Don't try and violate our Constitution. Because a person has contempt for gun ownership is not a valid reason to take away the rights of others.
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Hundreds of dead children and you accuse me of being emotional? What in heaven's name does it take for you to feel something about this carnage? All you are concerned about are your rights.
These threads disgust me.
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You can guarantee that the people who make that claim don't for one minute think it applies to them.
If someone cares so little about children being gunned down that all they are concerned about is their rights, then tell me, in your opinion, does your statement apply then?
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There seems to be a major problem with some political ideologies, if people don't ascribe to their political ideas then those people somehow lack compassion. No one should buy into the judgementalism and hatred.
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Barry 'Boulder' McKenzie, head of the NRA (National Rock Association) complained yesterday: 'I am sick and tired of people suggesting that rocks are a danger to our children. Rocks don't kill children. People kill children. And it is our God given right, as American citizens, to throw rocks, whether it's for hunting or the defence of our house and families.
If people are so worried about schoolchildren then it's obvious to me that all teachers should be armed with a small stone or a handful of pebbles.
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That's not the purpose of gun registration; it's a public safety measure, and if any presidential, congressional, or senate candidate ran on the platform of confiscating guns, they would lose because the vast majority of Americans are against the idea and would not support them.
I'm a gun owner, and like most gun owners, I want to see stronger gun laws.
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THIS ISN'T POLITICS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN!
Children are being shot to death! Why on earth are you on about politics when people simply want this carnage to end? What's political about demanding that the government shows some guts in trying to prevent innocent children getting their heads blown off? You are not even simply standing by and doing nothing. You are actively arguing against change!
I think some grieving parent needs to drag people like you along to the morgue so you can see the horrifying damage bullets have done to their 5 year old. How dare you try to push this as some political stunt.
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Don't trust the current US government. Now there's a sentiment I think we can all get behind!
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My interpretation is that they don't care. They really don't. Every school attack just leads to "thoughts and prayers" and "we can't change the constitution".
They're left with "Schrodinger's oppressive government" where they argue that they need guns to protect them from government over-reach, while simultaneously denying that any actions by Trump are over-reach.
Oh, and don't forget the pearl-clutching about crime in Washington, where the national guard is needed after one assault, but not needed after multiple murders of children.
Logical conclusion - they don't care. Let more children die - 100, 1,000, 1,000,000 - it's all acceptable as long as gun rights aren't touched at all.
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Yes. We are real emotional about wanting children to not get shot.
No other country in the world has the gun violence peoblem you have (unless you're counting the 3rd world...which....maybe be appropriate I guesss).
Nobody in the world also has a subsection of the population making the arguments you do to keep the status quo.
2nd ammendment supporters are the outlier amongst developed nations.
And rhe argument is always so stupid
"Gun laws won't stop violence"
Listen up. Nothing will.
What is going to reduce e gun Violence? Gun laws will. There is even evidence that it can happen in the USà
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Your premise is flawed. The problem is not law abiding gun owners or their desire to preserve their constitutional rights. Taking guns from law abiding citizens will not correct the evil that takes the lives of innocent children. The implication that lawful gun owners do not care about children is typical liberal talking points. We could destroy every gun on the planet tomorrow and that would have no effect on the hearts of evil individuals bent on murder. Come with a real solution that actually will work and I am all ears. I could say if SOME people cared about the lives of children they wouldn’t oppose common sense solutions like armed protection at schools. It is a fact that some of these sick evil murders choose schools because they are a soft target. Maybe some of the uncaring for the children politicians could actually propose workable solutions rather than use the deaths of innocents to try to further their own gun grabbing agendas.
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Armed with rocks right? If they have protection of children in their heats they will find a way after all!
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I'm not the slightest bit interested in anything further you and anyone else has to say on the matter. I'm up to the back teeth with these threads. I'm really at the point of saying something I'll regret responding to some of the brain dead 'arguments', positions and claims of some people. Feel free to carry on demanding that no-one trample on your 'rights'. I couldn't care less about them.
Unsubscribing.
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Change must occur. Change must occur. Change must occur.
I am saying that as someone who will never own a gun and will never use one.
This is about LIFE. NOT politics.
You are sooo right @Bradskii
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