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…but if it did it would fall to people with rocks in short order.
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Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis
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Banning all guns would save more lives. Banning high capacity magazines wont do it. You can change out a magazine in less than 2 seconds. Revolvers can be reloaded in 3.
Banning all guns is the only way to do it.
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Here I thought America was safer than ever.
These things are happening not because of the guns but because of the people. People who are mentally ill, or have specific grievances and find that they can be famous for their actions. They see what notoriety others get and they want the same.
But it is true. If you want fewer people to die then you have to get rid of the guns. All of them. These people will just kill with knives, but fewer kids will probably die in school attacks.
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Alot of German Christians thought they were Christians at heart.
The truth is more complicated than simplistic narratives of German Christians being "real" or not. In truth, many German Christians, just like many white Evangelicals in the US, saw themselves in a place of cultural weakness, and therefore supported a demagogue who scapegoated Jews and Socialists..
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Don't try to rewrite history. I was shocked the moment he said it, even American media on the left reacted, the U.S. was all that was holding Putin back. Search the articles from the times, I'll give you one example: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e-than-just-gaffe-it-revealed-weak-president/ So too people need to realize that pushing transgenderism can result in severe consequences.
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Or even explosives! The largest mass casualty attack on a school was done using dynamite in Bath Township, Michigan in 1927. Our modern day sporting rifles can't seem to measure up to what mass attackers could do 98 years ago. Bath School disaster - Wikipedia
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Just as I said before--it's just the "first step" toward further restrictions. When the things you listed still prove to not be enough, the restrictions against lawful gun owners become even more oppressive.
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See, the police are the solution! Why not look at it that way and hire more of them rather than further infringe upon Constitutional rights?
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I'm not. Like I said, US defaultism/centrism. Putin had and has his ambitions, he would have invaded Ukraine to fill them no matter who was sitting in the White House.
And bringing transgenders into the topic of the invasion of Ukraine doubly shows how delusional this is.
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[Sebastian] Gorka addressed the shooting on Sunday calling it "laughable" that anyone is blaming Department of Homeland Security (DHS) cuts to federal grants that would have funded tools and capabilities within the Minnesota Department of Safety.
The grants that were cut totaled $18.5 million and were run by the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships (CP3), a minor DHS Policy sub-office. They had funded programs at the state's Department of Public Safety as well as the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office to assess and manage threats of mass violence, CNN reported.
The DHS wrote in a press release last month: "CP3...with no operational role in monitoring or preventing terrorist attacks, had become a cash cow for radical activists under the Biden Administration—funneling taxpayer dollars to push woke, partisan agendas and silencing dissent. After a strategic review, DHS is discontinuing the funding of grants that have no legitimate nexus to protecting the homeland from the threat of terrorism."
Minnesota's Department of Public Safety Commissioner Bob Jacobson wrote to the state's congressional delegation in July that the cuts would impact their ability "to protect our communities from targeted violence and terrorism."
He added: "Given recent events in Minnesota, including targeted violence toward
religious organizations, political terrorism, and threats at schools, this funding cut will further jeopardize the safety of Minnesotans."
[It may well be a stretch (if not exactly laughable) that funds cut off a month ago had any impact in an event apparently some years in the making without any intervention being made. But it's certainly not helping, now or in the future.]
The grants that were cut totaled $18.5 million and were run by the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships (CP3), a minor DHS Policy sub-office. They had funded programs at the state's Department of Public Safety as well as the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office to assess and manage threats of mass violence, CNN reported.
The DHS wrote in a press release last month: "CP3...with no operational role in monitoring or preventing terrorist attacks, had become a cash cow for radical activists under the Biden Administration—funneling taxpayer dollars to push woke, partisan agendas and silencing dissent. After a strategic review, DHS is discontinuing the funding of grants that have no legitimate nexus to protecting the homeland from the threat of terrorism."
Minnesota's Department of Public Safety Commissioner Bob Jacobson wrote to the state's congressional delegation in July that the cuts would impact their ability "to protect our communities from targeted violence and terrorism."
He added: "Given recent events in Minnesota, including targeted violence toward
religious organizations, political terrorism, and threats at schools, this funding cut will further jeopardize the safety of Minnesotans."
[It may well be a stretch (if not exactly laughable) that funds cut off a month ago had any impact in an event apparently some years in the making without any intervention being made. But it's certainly not helping, now or in the future.]
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The fact is, he would have invaded either way. Like I said, this is Americans making themselves too important regarding some world events. And your phrasing there made it very much look like you were still talking of Ukraine, you didn't even put it in a different paragraph.
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Under ideal conditions and with a lot of practice, that's possible, but your average mass shooter isn't going to be able to do that during an adrenaline-induced chaotic situation. The banning of high-capacity magazines really comes down to common sense. Which shooter is going to be able to do the most harm in the most efficient manner? A shooter with a semi-automatic rifle equipped with a 100-round magazine or one with ten 10-round magazines? Your own numbers provide the answer. Even if the shooter is well trained, there will be an added 20 seconds added to the shooting time. But for a less experienced shooter under pressure, it will take them even longer. 5, 6, 7, or 8+ seconds? Even if they can switch magazines out in 5 seconds, which is unlikely, it adds close to one minute of downtime between shots being fired. This gives people time to react to the shooter between each pause, whether it be to run, hide, or make an attempt to disarm the shooter. It also increases the chances of the shooter making a mistake, especially an inexperienced shooter under pressure.
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Why would I? Aren’t rocks, fire, knives and cars equally as lethal as guns? Would not people with revolution in their hearts find a way?
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The police were already on the scene and responded to the threat within 20 seconds and yet the shooter was still able to kill 9 people and wound 27 others.
“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases, commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose. ... Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.” -- District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)
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