Heather Honey, researcher who has distorted 2020 voter data, appointed to Homeland Security election integrity role

Servus · Aug 30, 2025

childeye 2 said:
We know that each state is in charge of supervising their own elections. Federal oversight would most likely be concerned with foreign government interference/cybersecurity, etc. Therefore, qualifications would likely be pursuant to some expertise in that area.

What's defined as expertise in that area?

childeye 2 · Aug 30, 2025

ozso said:
Face it, you have no idea of what a deputy assistant secretary of election integrity does.

Not true. I would assume the title implies they serve under an assistant secretary.

childeye 2 · Aug 30, 2025

ozso said:
What's defined as expertise in that area?

As a deputy assistant, it would be a matter of efficiency in that capacity., (able to carry out the directives of the deputy).

Perpetual Student · Aug 30, 2025

ozso said:
tl;dr MSNBC and the left is trashing another appointee.

Yes, how despicable, after having read the phrase "Obama/Biden appointed leftist activist judge". No trashing there.

Servus · Aug 30, 2025

childeye 2 said:
As a deputy assistant, it would be a matter of efficiency in that capacity., (able to carry out the directives of the deputy).

Okay, you have an idea. But you don't really know. Let's say I want to apply for the job. What qualifications do I need to meet?

Perpetual Student · Aug 30, 2025

ozso said:
DHS appointed Heather Honey based on her prominence in the conservative election integrity movement.

That's not the topic, Heather Honey is.

Why should "her prominence in the conservative election integrity movement" (unedited copy-paste) be any reference? Should she not be " prominent in the legal/constitutional election integrity movement"?

Servus · Aug 30, 2025

Perpetual Student said:
Why should "her prominence in the conservative election integrity movement" (unedited copy-paste) be any reference? Should she not be " prominent in the legal/constitutional election integrity movement"?

Other than the wording what's the difference?

Perpetual Student · Aug 30, 2025

ozso said:
Other than the wording what's the difference?

The difference is the will of having a conservative government elected vs having the government elected that reflects the will of the people (whatever that is).
It is sad that this needs to be explained to you.

Servus · Aug 30, 2025

Perpetual Student said:
The difference is the will of having a conservative government elected vs having the government elected that reflects the will of the people (whatever that is).

What's the difference between a conservative government and a legal/constitutional government along those lines? Are they mutually exclusive?

Perpetual Student said:
It is sad that this needs to be explained to you.

I'm grilling you.

childeye 2 · Aug 30, 2025

ozso said:
Okay, you have an idea. But you don't really know.

Nobody can honestly say they really know without ever really experiencing what all the job entails firsthand, unless of course they are the deputy secretary or the actual secretary.

ozso said:
Let's say I want to apply for the job. What qualifications do I need to meet?

Let's get real. It would be disingenuous to pretend one has to have first been a deputy assistant secretary so as to infer that the person got the job simply because she believes Trump's lie that he won the 2020 election. That's why I said you should ask why it's reasonable to assume she's not qualified.

Servus · Aug 30, 2025

childeye 2 said:
Nobody can honestly say they know without ever experiencing what the job all entails firsthand, unless of course they are the deputy secretary or the actual secretary.

Let's get real. It would be disingenuous to pretend one has to have first been a deputy assistant secretary to infer that the person got the job simply because she believes Trump's lie that he won the 2020 election but that it was stolen by radical democrats. That's why I said you should ask why it's reasonable to assume she's not qualified.

That didn't answer the question. But you did clarify the real and only tangible complaint. She challenged the sketchy 2020 election process and results. Even though the left and democrats challenged the 2016 election as being illegitimate, rigged etc.

childeye 2 · Aug 30, 2025

ozso said:
She challenged the sketchy 2020 election process and results.

Exactly, this person surely must have worked to challenge the process and the results since the op states, ---> "A related report from ProPublica noted that Honey “had played a key role in [Cleta] Mitchell’s behind-the-scenes effort to change Georgia’s election rules to allow Republican officials to contest a potential Trump loss in that year’s presidential race. Honey also promoted election conspiracy theories, including one Trump cited in a speech to his followers before they stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.”

ozso said:
Even though the left and democrats challenged the 2016 election as being illegitimate, rigged etc.

Well, the differences here are that we have several official and non-partisan independent investigations that all found and reported that Russia had interfered extensively to hurt Hillary. And we also know that Putin wanted Trump to win so as to obtain a foreign policy favorable towards Russia in regard to annexing Crimea. So, the assertion that the fairness of the 2016 election had been compromised against Hillary actually has substantive merit. Moreover, unlike Trump, Hillary did not lie and claim definitively that she had actually won the election.

rambot · Aug 30, 2025

ozso said:
What's defined as expertise in that area?

"Someone who has not distorted and misrepresented data in the past"

Servus · Aug 30, 2025

rambot said:
"Someone who has not distorted and misrepresented data in the past"

That would make someone more of an expert like Frank Abagnale and Kevin Mitnick.

Pommer · Aug 31, 2025

ozso said:
It's a hard left highly biased critique.

Okay, give us then, the “truth”, if you would?

Pommer · Aug 31, 2025

ozso said:
According to the people who hired her, yes. Because she's a professional election investigator.

Cool job title.
I’m an internet wise-guy, it pays well and thanks to Soros going to Bitcoin, secretly!

ozso said:
She did stuff the left objects to is not a disqualification in my opinion.

It’s certainly a fact that that is your opinion, still short on real, actual facts beyond that though.

ozso said:
Anecdotally, the more the left objects to someone, the more likely it is they're the right person for the job.

One would hope that the other side doesn’t catch on and root against someone you’d really rather not have!

Servus · Aug 31, 2025

Pommer said:
Cool job title.
I’m an internet wise-guy, it pays well and thanks to Soros going to Bitcoin, secretly!

It’s certainly a fact that that is your opinion, still short on real, actual facts beyond that though.

One would hope that the other side doesn’t catch on and root against someone you’d really rather not have!

That would just be the left reversing their usual stance which happens a lot too.

Servus · Aug 31, 2025

Pommer said:
Okay, give us then, the “truth”, if you would?

I'm not a journalist.

Pommer · Aug 31, 2025

ozso said:
I'm not a journalist.

You can spot errors in journalists stories, but won’t share your insights?
Fine, be that way.

Servus · Aug 31, 2025

Pommer said:
You can spot errors in journalists stories, but won’t share your insights?
Fine, be that way.

I didn't point out any errors or even say there were errors. I said it was a hard left critique. If it was a Britebart article, then I'd say it was a hard right critique. Saying MSNBC is hard left, is like saying water is wet.

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