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This sounds crazy. The Holy Spirit saves us Titus3:5-6
Of course we are saved by the Holy Spirit, but we don’t receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit until after we accept Christ. Are you saying that I was saved before I asked Jesus for forgiveness and salvation? That doesn’t fit with the book of Acts. When was Paul saved?
I doubt it, but ok. Maybe you can show the evidence?
Maybe Calvinism should be called Augustinianism instead of the other way around.
You sound confused to me, and I dont know anything about you. This is about Jesus said no man can believe on Him, they dont have the ability.
Yes, it does matter. Jesus said that the Jews of his generation will be under a greater judgment. He said that the Ninevites will stand in judgment against them.
This doesn't prove that Jews and Gentiles share guilt in the same measure. Jesus called only his own generation of Jews "a wicked and adulterous generation" because they wanted signs. Gentiles believed without signs. They did not carry all the guilt the Jews carried.
The Gentiles weren't under the law (Romans 2:14; 1 Corinthians 9:20-22).
I thought Calvinists deny that "all the world" means everybody? ?????
Verse 8 clearly tells us who didn't that didn't understand. It was the Jewish rulers who crucified Christ. Therefore, the contrast is not between the saved and the unsaved, but the Jewish rulers who couldn't understand the things of the Spirit of God and the apostles to whom the things of the Spirit was revealed.
Its the natural man that doesnt receive the the things of God, it doesnt matter the ethnicity lol
Here is an article that demonstrates that the concept of total depravity was around long before Augustine.I doubt it, but ok. Maybe you can show the evidence?
Maybe Calvinism should be called Augustinianism instead of the other way around.
The link is very good and explains total depravity doctrine well. Here is a refuting article: REFUTING TOTAL DEPRAVITY
The argument in that article is based on a secular definition of depravity rather than a biblical definition of it. Total depravity, biblically, means total inability. You can’t speak about biblical doctrine using secular definitions because they are part of fallen society, under the same influences as the rest of the fallen world.
Right, my point is that the argument between free well and predestination is always presented as binary. The person drowning would call out if they knew help was nearby or not. Just as our instincts force us to cry for help, the Holy Spirit has been influencing the unsaved person to see that they are in trouble with their soul. Many philosophers have recognized that people see their depravity, but only some people choose to do something about it. That doesn’t mean that the Holy Spirit’s leading cannot be rejected. They might choose Hinduism or something else. The interaction between man’s free will and God’s predestination is not binary. Both come into play, but God gets all of the glory.
