Trump to sign executive order directing AG to prosecute flag desecration

Oompa Loompa · Tuesday at 5:08 PM

RileyG said:
Actually, a 23 year old man was arrested in the UK for saying “we love bacon” outside a UK mosque several days ago. The entire country doesn’t hate it, but it offended someone.

Ridiculous

But apparently, I am the flaming liar. And no, I am not expecting an apology either.

Oompa Loompa · Tuesday at 5:10 PM

Bradskii said:
Part of what makes a country great is acknowledging what they have done and are doing that isn't so great. Admitting to your faults. There seems to be a distinct lack of that in some sections of the US.

Well, when you are the biggest and strongest kid on the block, it is rather difficult to do.

RileyG · Tuesday at 5:11 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
But apparently, I am the flaming liar. And no, I am not expecting an apology either.

She probably wasn’t aware of the incident.

There plenty of reasons why some people may dislike Islam, but not Muslims personally, and that doesn’t make it hateful or inflammatory.

RileyG · Tuesday at 5:12 PM

RileyG said:
She probably wasn’t aware of the incident.

There plenty of reasons why some people may dislike Islam, but not Muslims personally, and that doesn’t make it hateful or inflammatory.

Not to mention, many radical Muslims react very strongly if they are offended. It has happened countless times. I’m referring to a very small minority of Muslims. A vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, even if their ideology is not.

Oompa Loompa · Tuesday at 5:12 PM

RileyG said:
She probably wasn’t aware of the incident.

There plenty of reasons why some people may dislike Islam, but not Muslims personally, and that doesn’t make it hateful or inflammatory.

I agree. But one would expect a poster to ask for a source before the insults and accusations.

Oompa Loompa · Tuesday at 5:16 PM

Tropical Wilds said:
Thats absurd to even claim and you know it. Flaming another religion by seeking out victimhood is bad enough, but to flat out lie is a bit much.

By the way, I am glad to hear that you find the UK's policies on free speech to be absurd. I agree.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 5:25 PM

Nithavela said:
And yet the left now acts like the english flag is forever claimed and tainted by racism and can no longer be used in any positive context.

Well, you may know someone English who thinks that. Personally I think it's an idiotic position. The flag means what you want it to mean. Support for your team or a racist comment about immigration.

I keep saying this, but context is all.

Nithavela · Tuesday at 5:39 PM

RileyG said:
What? I’m sure I’ve seen countless images of Jesus with the English flag and no one ever complained.

(I’m aware the English flag is NOT Union Jack)

I need to be enlightened.

From patriotic to racist – can the England flag ever be reclaimed?

A group raising money to get every lamp post in their village adorned with the ‘beautiful’ St George’s flag has been met with backlash. Helen Coffey asks whether the far right’s commandeering of our national symbol means it’s forever tainted

www.independent.co.uk

RileyG · Tuesday at 5:40 PM

Nithavela said:
From patriotic to racist – can the England flag ever be reclaimed?

A group raising money to get every lamp post in their village adorned with the ‘beautiful’ St George’s flag has been met with backlash. Helen Coffey asks whether the far right’s commandeering of our national symbol means it’s forever tainted

www.independent.co.uk

Thank you for the link. I appreciate it.

Peace

RDKirk · Tuesday at 5:52 PM

Tropical Wilds said:
It’s not that we are worried about negative connotations and political correctness… It’s that when something becomes a thing used by racists to be racists, we don’t want to be lumped in with the racists.

We harken back to the time where doing things that racists did was entirely undesirable.

Bradskii said:
If I was in a group of men marching through the city waving Australian flags then unless there's an obvious reason for it (we're heading to the SCG to watch Australia beat England in the cricket), then people would assume this was some kind of march against immigration. Again, it's context.

I've got a keffiyeh in my wardrobe. I bought it years ago in a market in Morocco. I wore it recently on a march supporting Palestine and it was obvious why it was being worn. But wearing it on a daily basis locally where there are a lot of synagogues might be seen as being anti-Semitic. Context is all.

@Tropical Wilds' statement removes it from context-dependence.

RDKirk · Tuesday at 5:56 PM

RileyG said:
Not to mention, many radical Muslims react very strongly if they are offended. It has happened countless times. I’m referring to a very small minority of Muslims. A vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, even if their ideology is not.

A vast majority of police officers are honest and respectful.

A vast majority of Southern whites during Jim Crow didn't lynch black people.

It's still a "they" problem when that "vast majority" turns its head from the actions of that "small minority."

Bradskii · Tuesday at 6:03 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Well, when you are the biggest and strongest kid on the block, it is rather difficult to do.

Is that how you determine greatness? By being bigger and stronger? Well, allrighty then.

Oompa Loompa · Tuesday at 6:25 PM

Bradskii said:
Is that how you determine greatness? By being bigger and stronger? Well, allrighty then.

No. Being the biggest and strongest is a product of greatness. In other words, we are not great because we are big and strong. We are big and strong because of our greatness.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 6:28 PM

RDKirk said:
@Tropical Wilds' statement removes it from context-dependence.

No, she's saying if a flag is being used in one context - racism, then reasonable people would not want to be associated with it being used in that way.

But if we beat England in the cricket and someone is waving an Australian flag at the ground then I'll get involved and there'll be selfies.

Same flag. Different context. Different reactions.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 6:36 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
No. Being the biggest and strongest is a product of greatness. In other words, we are not great because we are big and strong. We are big and strong because of our greatness.

Well, allrighty. You are great because you are big and strong. And you are big and strong because of your greatness.

That must make sense to someone.

Oompa Loompa · Tuesday at 6:37 PM

Bradskii said:
No, she's saying if a flag is being used in one context - racism, then reasonable people would not want to be associated with it being used in that way.

But if we beat England in the cricket and someone is waving an Australian flag at the ground then I'll get involved and there'll be selfies.

Same flag. Different context. Different reactions.

What if an Australian vet is putting up a flag pole in their front lawn?

Oompa Loompa · Tuesday at 6:37 PM

Bradskii said:
Well, allrighty. You are great because you are big and strong. And you are big and strong because of your greatness.

That must make sense to someone.

Reread my post and try again.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 6:40 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
What if an Australian vet is putting up a flag pole in their front lawn?

I'll give him a hand to put it up.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 6:54 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Reread my post and try again.

Australia is a small country. But I'd consider us great. I can list all the reasons why. And I can list all our faults as well.

Russia is a strong country. And in some aspects I'd consider them great. But...well you know the situation.

The US is a powerful country. And you have a lot to be proud about. But you are being run by a small minded man. In the eyes of the world your reputation is being trashed. I don't consider you as being great at this time.

You're like an old friend who is being led astray. I sincerely hope that you recover.

RileyG · Tuesday at 6:56 PM

Bradskii said:
Australia is a small country. But I'd consider us great. I can list all the reasons why. And I can list all our faults as well.

Russia is a strong country. And in some aspects I'd consider them great. But...well you know the situation.

The US is a powerful country. And you have a lot to be proud about. But you are being run by a small minded man. In the eyes of the world your reputation is being trashed. I don't consider you as being great at this time.

You're like an old friend who is being led astray. I sincerely hope that you recover.

If it’s any consolation, Trump won’t be around forever. We have term limits. Not to mention, he’s elderly.

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