Antisemitism all time high in UK

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 6:52 AM

Larniavc said:
Again: you can’t say that kind of thing about an entire section of society. SOME are multicultural but some are very much not.

Please try to imagine humanity with a pinch of granularity instead of making sweeping authoritative statements about huge swathes of people.

Israel is widely known as a country of immigrants from across the entire globe. For you to suggest it is not a multicultural society, is factually incorrect, regardless of your anti-broadbrushing ideological pet peeve.

BCP1928 · Thursday at 6:56 AM

Landon Caeli said:
Israel is widely known as a country of immigrants from across the entire globe. For you to suggest it is not a multicultural society, is factually incorrect, regardless of your anti-broadbrushing ideological pet peeve.

Right. European or other western-oriented cultures. The Mizrahis came later and are still considered second-class citizens.

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 7:07 AM

BCP1928 said:
Right. European or other western-oriented cultures. The Mizrahis came later and are still considered second-class citizens.

In every multi-cultural society, that has ever existed, there will always be a minority "group" clinging to their customs.

Of you can figure out a solution to cultural barriers in regards to this, you could win the Pulitzer prize.

BCP1928 · Thursday at 7:26 AM

Landon Caeli said:
In every multi-cultural society, that has ever existed, there will always be a minority "group" clinging to their customs.

Or discriminated against by the majority "group."

Landon Caeli said:
Of you can figure out a solution to cultural barriers in regards to this, you could win the Pulitzer prize.

I don't care, the whole line of argument is just misdirection on your part.

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 7:52 AM

BCP1928 said:
Or discriminated against by the majority "group."

I don't care, the whole line of argument is just misdirection on your part.

Why is it a misdirection on my part? Because I'm not automatically favoring the minority?

Try not favoring the minority for once. Let's expand our minds together, and be open seeing things in a new, more balanced way.

Larniavc · Thursday at 9:12 AM

Landon Caeli said:
For you to suggest it is not a multicultural society,

I didn't. You ignored my entire point and introduced a red herring made up out of whole cloth (as has been noted upthread by the extremely wise @BCP1928 ). You can't do that! Are you being deliberately obtuse?

I'll say it again. You cannot make sweeping statements about an entire population, culture or society. That this needs repeating to you is astounding.

BCP1928 · Thursday at 9:18 AM

Landon Caeli said:
Why is it a misdirection on my part? Because I'm not automatically favoring the minority?

Try not favoring the minority for once. Let's expand our minds together, and be open seeing things in a new, more balanced way.

What "minority" are you talking about? The minority of Mizrahi Jews who have to adapt to the Western-oriented culture of the Ashkenazis who run the state of Israel because Israel is supposed to be the Western-oriented state we're paying them for?

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 11:03 AM

BCP1928 said:
What "minority" are you talking about? The minority of Mizrahi Jews who have to adapt to the Western-oriented culture of the Ashkenazis who run the state of Israel because Israel is supposed to be the Western-oriented state we're paying them for?

Yes, they need to try and adapt.

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 11:04 AM

Larniavc said:
I didn't. You ignored my entire point and introduced a red herring made up out of whole cloth (as has been noted upthread by the extremely wise @BCP1928 ). You can't do that! Are you being deliberately obtuse?

I'll say it again. You cannot make sweeping statements about an entire population, culture or society. That this needs repeating to you is astounding.

I have no idea what you're talking about then.

BCP1928 · Thursday at 12:49 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Yes, they need to try and adapt.

Why? Why shouldn't it be the other way around?

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 2:11 PM

BCP1928 said:
Why? Why shouldn't it be the other way around?

Because there's no progression the other way around. No progression means stagnation, and stagnation leads to collapse. Collapse leads to famine, poverty and crime.

We should want countries to be successful instead.

BCP1928 · Thursday at 2:25 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Because there's no progression the other way around. No progression means stagnation, and stagnation leads to collapse. Collapse leads to famine, poverty and crime.

We should want countries to be successful instead.

Because Ashkenazi culture is better than Mizrahi culture?

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 2:27 PM

BCP1928 said:
Because Ashkenazi culture is better than Mizrahi culture?

Yes. It is.

I dumped my grandparents culture long ago. It's best to let it go to rest, and get on with whatever is better. Times change, we move on as human beings. Anyone can do it, if they're honest with themselves.

BCP1928 · Thursday at 2:29 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Yes. It is.

But only in some mystical way that you can't describe. OK.

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 2:38 PM

BCP1928 said:
But only in some mystical way that you can't describe. OK.

Don't you understand there's no progression in stagnation? No future being a living antique. Only suffering.

BCP1928 · Thursday at 3:12 PM

Landon Caeli said:
Don't you understand there's no progression in stagnation? No future being a living antique. Only suffering.

Conform or wind up in the "dustbin of history." --Leon Trotsky

Larniavc · Friday at 5:41 AM

Landon Caeli said:
I have no idea what you're talking about then.

Which is a sad thing indeed.

Larniavc · Friday at 5:44 AM

Landon Caeli said:
Don't you understand there's no progression in stagnation? No future being a living antique. Only suffering.

You reject conservatism?

Landon Caeli · Friday at 6:34 AM

Larniavc said:
You reject conservatism?

Are you talking socially or fiscally? And how socially conservative do you think I could be, with a Jerry Garcia avatar?

Landon Caeli · Friday at 6:38 AM

Larniavc said:
Which is a sad thing indeed.

You have "one" idea you want to beat me over the head with. But you're not even applying it properly, and then you misunderstand who I am as a person, assuming I'm a social conservative. I'm actually pretty center there.

Expand your mind with me!

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