Undoing the trap and mind games of schemers and manipulators of the faith and humanity

Hi everyone, let us see if our faith can find a way for dealing and trampling under mind games. This can be a social justice issue for people.

Mind games on someone can be like a hall of mirrors/mirage/delusions/illusions, web of lies, masks=changing the attributes of people, to mind manipulation of theirs to creating mystery situations which are not present and maze's of hoax's on you and snares triggered in the body. I do not like doing maze type things and can feel agoraphobic and need to get out if people try this on me.

People who do this to you may be abusive and provocative. They can play on the Bible’s guides to steam you up.
For instance we know a Commandment of God is not to steal and I do not.

An example- say In a supermarket sometimes someone was dizzy and eaten an apple in the store. Previously staff if I felt poorly cordially and freely would provide me juice and assistance. Continuing the story say if one apple was eaten and another one taken to the self checkout and left behind after being paid for and shown to the staff. The agitator could say you shouldn’t have stolen the apple which has been paid for and this is a lie and a hoax to them. The accusation of stealing could lead to an overwhelm internally although you know it is fake-it would provoke your conscience. They are playing on peoples intelligence and manipulating the Bible.

For me- I could be going out they tell me to watch for fornication without seeing someone. They are misusing the faith.

Eg they will be telling me to turn around and there is nobody there and then I think something is happening and more which used to trigger an overwhelm but no more-they try and predict disaster to happen for you and fall into it. I have autism with moderate sensory needs and I think they do it on purpose as well sometimes, but God responds. This can happen to anyone. if I am overwhelmed due to them God has intervened, but I need to find a remedy. The Holy Spirit told me, justice is coming, but to never let it bother me would be great to resolve. I don't like to take their time to deal with this.

These happen to people and it can be said to other human beings to, but me as a witness to the faith-my condition can find it difficult and they will do these to me and nobody else telling me to turn around etc.
I have had severe anorexia which has been in a strong recovery, but it is like may be someone doesn't like it and the insult will no longer call me fat...but insult me about my faith and my conscience to get to me perhaps to rattle my recovery...still under a year in solid recovery but months in and what is this.... God is with me and his spirit has appeared to take me out of an unprovoked overwhelm due to being provoked with lies....please tell me why do people say autism=spiritual attack at times as I am wondering what it is and the autism may not be it for me as it is consecrated. God made me and supports me when overwhelmed and has given me his gifts to try and protect me in life and equipped me to cope. They are almost like they can persecute me, but it is nobody else. I think God gave me at times the junior gift of discernment to narrow this down.

They can act like a friendly devil with a holier than thou conscience. They can be built on the grandest lies of religious slander to the conscience and stories of bad behaviour removed by God from life. You would think the Lord would be returning soon with all this madness as well.

These schemers can infect you as well to make you feel guilty for them and infecting the body as well and be hearing bizarre things to provoke your conscience that are impossible and insane and a hoax but can twist your words with their snares in the body. They also can be built on things you decided not to do and prodding you with them to. You may find it stupid and know it s not true but accusations like that and especially if long drawn out can be grating. Some people may think it is true though and that's a shame.

What does this scripture say about this, of course prayer helps, and what are your thoughts to.

Jesus mentioned about the spirit of fear. Is this mind games an anxiety thing that someone can overcome if done to them and how.

I saw this forum and the first post it was like these ways can act, built on a web of lies. What in the scripture can we use to overturn these hot prodded conscience stirrers for nothing and can it be used on vulnerable with great effect.

My vision of the Devil


Perhaps some people online can act like baiters at times as well.


Let's find the way out these web of lies and hoax that distress people’s consciousness.

Hi everyone, when I am looking for life advice-I may search to hear the advice from people with different opinions. I did so here as well. With the above post I posted it in a general forum with a Christian section where you can get usually the real advice from everyday Joe. I also posted this in a shorter version in a religious section on a board for those with neurodiverse conditions like mine. I also posted it in a non religious forum and just mentioned that I am a Christian in the title.

This forum is the only dedicated Christian I belong to and am glad to be a member. Anymore thoughts are always welcome.

I have got some answers to this and wanted to share with you what I got to my post above, from the three forums above that were different to this forum in breadth and scope. I also spoke to elders in the faith and my church rector to help gauge their thoughts before writing this.
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Hi everyone, I felt drawn to write this post on using scripture to help support others deal with those who like to play mind games on Christians. Sometimes in life we may meet an abuser of the faith and human kind. They may be abusive, provocative, manipulative and love to play on mind games to provoke your conscience and speak to you that you are committing sin and wrongdoing when you are not. They can also sometimes come out almost like a serpent in the grass hissing these words and then run away as well to come back sometimes.

How do we deal with these people as Christians.

First let me share with you one example about Jezebel who was a grand schemer in the Old Testament.

Jezebel was a corrupt woman who was a Queen and daughter of Ethbaal who didn’t worship God. Jezebel liked to reign misery, immorality and injustice on prophets of God in particular in the Old Testament. Jezebel called for a termination of the life of the Prophets of God (1 Kings 18:4, 13). At one time this called for drastic action to be taken by Obadiah to hide 100 prophets from Jezebel in a cave when she was on a rampage for them (1Kings: 4). The particular case doesn’t involve a prophet but it shows how scheming Jezebel was. There a man called Naboth who was a citizen of Jezreel and believer in God from the tribe of Issachar, and he owned a vineyard which was desired by Jezebel’s husband who was King Ahab.

Naboth wouldn’t relinquish his vineyard to the King. The King then called on his wife to manipulate and seize the vineyard from Naboth. To force Naboth to relinquish his vineyard Jezebel had him tried for crimes of blasphemy against God. Naboth was incorrectly found guilty of this crime due to false witnesses and this led to him being stoned to death. To be charged with blasphemy most likely played on Naboth's mind as it would likely cause any ordinary God fearing human being. God though sought justice for Naboth through Prophet Elijah which was fulfilled and King Jehu brought to the end her gross crimes in Kings (2 Kings 9 :30-37). Today the Jezebel figure is symbolic for men and women who lead servants of God into immorality and Jesus will end her assault when he returns to earth for judgement.

Blessed Padua (Lucrezia Bellini) who suffered from mental health challenges went through a terrible time of incorrectly being blamed for poisoning a nun and it was found to be incorrect and she suffered mind games and provocation which almost led her to a fatality where she was found walking on a high beam. God was on her side and she came through and was found not responsible and innocent and the nun recovered as well.

In life as Christians we may encounter people who to play on our conscience to provoke us with a hot spear rod for their own scheming manipulative ways.

In my experience I have been told I should watch out for fornication when it wasn’t remotely possible and not desired by me. They was using my faith to deride me and trying to overwhelm me especially as somebody who has sensory conditions and autism. God intervened in this case. I have been told also to make an oath against my Bible which they know I will not desire to receive and hear as a Christian as this is a sin.

People can make grand lies as well or present things even removed from God from life itself which you will not want to hear-which will play on your conscience and can lead you to be unwell and leave name triggers in the body.

These are schemers, manipulators and mind gamers who present a web of lies to cause you harm to undermine your spiritual journey and growth. You may also be a very kind person who someone wants to take advantage of as well, especially as in our faith we are asked to support others which is good, but schemers should not be tolerated. There are vulnerable groups in this world, which may be more likely to be targetted.

What can we do about it as Christians. If you are going through this or who have been through this you are not alone.



You can report to the police if it is a crime and seek support from loved ones and friends and the church. Personal resilience courses also may help and look after your health as this stress could cause to become unwell. You may want to check in with your GP also if you find this very difficult. Remind yourselves of the things in your life that helped frame your life and that you enjoyed doing and remind yourself of your values to help get you through this. You can seek spiritual counselling also by a spiritual companion which is free or low cost usually.

Unlocking scripture to find the answers

We must also remain steadfast to God and trust in God and he will see you through as it his promise that he does not abandon his children in difficult and wicked times in Psalm 37. God is also against violence as we see in Psalm 12 and his spirit stands for those who are afflicted. Remember Jesus didn't give us the spiirt of fear and confusion and as Christians our spirit desires us to speak in truth, so do not partake in these lies that are said to you and remember Christ alone has paid the ransom for our lives and your life is owned by Christ alone who judges us alone which of course does not involve the manipulators of your mind false judgement about you.

Remember that Jesus said in the Beatitudes that Blessed are those who are perscueted and reviled for his sake, for their reward is the kingdom of Heaven. Jesus knows this will happen for some of his followers and that some of us may end up in jail for defending the faith, ( Revelations 2:10) , but he still asks us to seek to be liberated from this as well and he cares for his followers as well. Genuiely those who cannot be free on earth, will be rewarded with God.

God knows our hearts and thoughts the pain 2:10and disruption they have caused you. God is Uchangeable, Omnipotent (powerful) and present and values justice. Focus on the love of God of as well.

We need to remain focused on Christ-everything else they do to you is noise and immaterial

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

In some cases the serenity prayer may be helpful as well to accept where you are temporary and know that earth is not your eternal abode in Christ.
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference"

Try to ignore those who are counterproductive and try not to give a platform to evil doers.

This kind of manipulation does line up with what scripture calls the “schemes of the devil” (Ephesians 6:11). People can be tools in that, sometimes knowingly, sometimes not, but the good news is that in Christ you’re not powerless against it.

Focus on the truth-

One thing that helps is remembering what Jesus said in John 8:32: “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” Lies and mind games only gain power when we give them weight. The enemy loves to accuse (Revelation 12:10), but our conscience is not ruled by other people its ruled by Gods Word. If you know you’ve done nothing wrong, you can stand firm in that truth and not let false accusations bind you.

Try setting firm boundaries and refusing to engage when these games start., sometimes silence is the best response (Proverbs 26:4). And spiritually, keep leaning on prayer, Scripture, and fellowship with believers who can remind you of the truth when you feel overwhelmed.

Remember how Jesus was silent to the Sanhedrin's who charged him with faulty charges which led to his crucifixion.

Fear makes it worse. But 2 Timothy 1:7 says God has given us “a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.” That’s yours in Christ, and no one can take it away.

These slander can come from someone else or also yourself and your own guilty conscience which is very sensitive. This also could come from another member in the body a condition, abuse can come from them as well. Hebrews mentions about washing away a guilty conscience to perhaps consider praying to God to remove this- Hebrews: 10:22) Something unclean may have also entered your body and use these steps to remove them.
Good luck on breaking the web of deceit and lies. Undo the knots of lies. We should treat others as ourselves as Jesus told us to do.