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Antisemitism all time high in UK

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I say deport them all to Islamist nations and see how long they continue to support such radical and destructive ideology. They will soon come back home with their tails between their legs and realise that the West including Isreal are the good guys and not the bad ones.
I once lived in a Muslim nation for two and a half years and have worked on projects in others for weeks at a time--mostly recently last December.
You don't know what you are talking about.
 
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I once lived in a Muslim nation for two and a half years and have worked on projects in others for weeks at a time--mostly recently last December.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Perhaps if you read what I actually said then there would be no need to attack a strawman. I clearly destinguished that these were Islamist nations. Have you lived in Islamist nations like Iran or Yemen.

Iran: New compulsory veiling law intensifies oppression of women and girls

Enforced veiling at the threat of death is just one of many violations of women in these extremist nations. They don't hold democratic elections, they descriminate and murder their own people and impose the same extreme ideology on their own people.

Like the civil war in Yemen where civilians are targeted and children are forced to fight with guns to kill their own people. The Houthis are backed by Iran and it seems that the extremist nations have regimes backed by Iran.

It is these regimes and extremists I am talking about and not the Muslims as a whole. If the same thing was happening in a western nation that was denying minorities, forcing women to conform or be killed and making their children fight wars it would not be tolerated and condemned.

Yemen Crisis
Wheres all the protesters blocking streets for the poor people of Yemen. More than 18.2 million people are in dire need of humanitarian assistance and protection services. The risk of a large-scale famine in the country has never been more acute. Tens of thousands are already living in famine-like conditions and a staggering five million more are acutely food insecure.


Malnutrition rates among women and children in Yemen remain among the highest in the world, with 1.4 million pregnant or breastfeeding women requiring treatment for acute malnutrition. Yemeni children continue to be killed and injured because of the conflict and are dying at increasingly high rates due to preventable diseases and malnutrition. According to UNICEF, one in two children under the age of five are malnourished in Yemen.

Why is Isreal singled out and seemingly made to be the bad guy while these extreme regimes like Hamas and the Houthis who have been systemactically wiping out not on;y Jews and Christians but there own people and not one of the social justice warriors has said boo about whats happening.

But suddeny the same radicals attack Isreal and Ireal defends itself and all hell breaks loose in condemning Isreal and not the radicals. Seems a bit inconsistent to me. Either you equally condemn all or none at all. But it seems there is an effort to conflate Isreals actions on the same level as Hamas which is false.
 
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Thomas Sowell was asked why is there so much hatred for the Jews throughout history. He said its because they are so successful in what they do. Despite a history of oppression and dispersion they seem to be able to suceed no matter what.

The idea is that if your poor and disadvantaged you belong to the victim groups. But if you suceed your an oppressor.

But I think its more than this as there have been times when Jews were persecuted when in poverty such as the Pogroms against the Jews in Russia in the 19th century.

I have read that the true source of the hatred for the Jews is in the Torah. Back to Mt Sinai when God made the Jews His chosen people. Something in making the Jews Gods people provokes some people. Whether thats because they think the Jews should be cut down to size for claiming to be Gods people.

Or something deeper where just as the ancient Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites or the Jesbusites were attacking Isreal this inherent hatred still lives on and is something more spiritual.

But definitely there is a hyperfocus on the jews and Isreal compared to any other nations or similar context. Its more than cultural, land, or social justice.
100% true..!
 
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I say this from here, at the monastery here in Maine, where I'm currently staying... Jealousy is a manifestation of envy. A cardinal sin according to my own beliefs.

Don't let yourself fall into it. Instead, embrace others successes. Be happy for them.
 
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Perhaps if you read what I actually said then there would be no need to attack a strawman. I clearly destinguished that these were Islamist nations. Have you lived in Islamist nations like Iran or Yemen.

Iran: New compulsory veiling law intensifies oppression of women and girls

Enforced veiling at the threat of death is just one of many violations of women in these extremist nations. They don't hold democratic elections, they descriminate and murder their own people and impose the same extreme ideology on their own people.

Like the civil war in Yemen where civilians are targeted and children are forced to fight with guns to kill their own people. The Houthis are backed by Iran and it seems that the extremist nations have regimes backed by Iran.

It is these regimes and extremists I am talking about and not the Muslims as a whole.
And you think Palestinians are an Islamist regime? You seem to be talking about Shiites.
If the same thing was happening in a western nation that was forcing women to conform or else and making their children fight wars it would not be tolerated and condemned.
They could just stay here. The Secretary of Defense is advocating for a program in which woman who are not in traditional Christian marriages should be subject to compulsory military service.
 
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And you think Palestinians are an Islamist regime? You seem to be talking about Shiites.
No but the regime in power is. Which only supports my point that these radical Islamists have also destroyed Gaza and the Palestinians. The sooner they are out the better for everyone. This should have been done years ago but thanks to PC we let them flourish.
They could just stay here. The Secretary of Defense is advocating for a program in which woman who are not in traditional Christian marriages should be subject to compulsory military service.
Here we go again trying to make the west the same as these radicals. No the west is not the same despite our flaws. If you don't like what a party does you can vote them out.

But that never happens in these radical regimes. They take control and never the the people have any say. Especially women. The radical activists decry how bad the west is and yet many Muslims are coming to the west fleeing from these radical regimes.

Hamas want the same kind of regime in Gaza and they want Isreal as well. They want the world to be subject to their God or else.
 
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No but the regime in power is. Which only supports my point that these radical Islamists have also destroyed Gaza and the Palestinians. The sooner they are out the better for everyone. This should have been done years ago but thanks to PC we let them flourish.
Who is we and what were “we” supposed to do? Invade Gaza?
 
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The civilized (Western) world?
Worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan. Clearly we, not Israel obviously, need to continue such success elsewhere in the Islamic world.
 
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Western meddling in the Middle East usually destabilizes nations that might otherwise have worked things out for themselves. Usually Israel gets caught in the middle because they are assumed to be a stooge of the US ( they aren’t but their survival is with the US).

Either by warmongering or concerns over “human rights” the US creates a hornet’s nest in the Middle East. Overthrowing the Shah of Iran in 1979, the Desert Storm war in 1991, the Iraq war of 2003, the “ Arab Spring” debacle etc. etc. Nation states are destabilized, radical Islam ( which thrives mostly on anti Judaism & anti Christianity) fills the vacuum, & perpetual refugee flows of people keeps many NGO human trafficking entities in business.
 
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Western meddling in the Middle East usually destabilizes nations that might otherwise have worked things out for themselves. Usually Israel gets caught in the middle because they are assumed to be a stooge of the US ( they aren’t but their survival is with the US).
We’re Israel’s stooge.
 
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Western meddling in the Middle East usually destabilizes nations that might otherwise have worked things out for themselves. Usually Israel gets caught in the middle because they are assumed to be a stooge of the US ( they aren’t but their survival is with the US).

Either by warmongering or concerns over “human rights” the US creates a hornet’s nest in the Middle East. Overthrowing the Shah of Iran in 1979, the Desert Storm war in 1991, the Iraq war of 2003, the “ Arab Spring” debacle etc. etc. Nation states are destabilized, radical Islam ( which thrives mostly on anti Judaism & anti Christianity) fills the vacuum, & perpetual refugee flows of people keeps many NGO human trafficking entities in business.
And when France and Britain were carving up the former Ottoman territories into "countries" to suit themselves after WW I, the people who lived in them eventually got something that at least resembled independence. Except for the Palestinians, who got a Western-oriented secular state forcibly populated with European immigrants.
 
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And when France and Britain were carving up the former Ottoman territories into "countries" to suit themselves after WW I, the people who lived in them eventually got something that at least resembled independence. Except for the Palestinians, who got a Western-oriented secular state forcibly populated with European immigrants.
And the Eastern Greeks and Armenians were wiped out by post Ottoman Turkey ( a NATO ally).
 
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We’re Israel’s stooge.
Israel had nothing to do with all the past wars I mentioned except for geography and the obsessions of their enemies. The mutual tensions with them & Palestine should really be a local issue.
 
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The UK can hate us just like they hate the Jews. I want them to.

...Because I don't want anything to do with those people anyways. All respect is lost.

Any genetic traces to there, I disown, if I even have any.

They probably define anti-Semitic as “not Zionist” and “against isreals organised ethnic cleansing”.

Yes, the majority of people in the uk are not zionists. So what?
 
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Israel had nothing to do with all the past wars I mentioned except for geography and the obsessions of their enemies. The mutual tensions with them & Palestine should really be a local issue.
It will never be a local or even regional issue with the US subsidizing Israel and supporting them militarily.
 
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Yes, the majority of people in the uk are not zionists. So what?
Why aren't they? There's nothing wrong with Zionism, just like There's nothing wrong with mass migration of any people's of any kind anywhere else.

...Or do you think there should be limitations on other particular ethnic groups from migrating together in areas?

Maybe you're against having too many Irishmen in your neighborhood? IDK, just curious.
 
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They probably define anti-Semitic as “not Zionist” and “against isreals organised ethnic cleansing”.
Before the so called "ethnic cleansing" there was anti-Jewish RACISM, from the start, by the so called "Palestinians" - you have to get to the root of the problem to truly understand

Why were Jews not welcome in Palestine to begin with? You should ask yourself these kinds of questions.
 
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Before the so called "ethnic cleansing" there was anti-Jewish RACISM, from the start, by the so called "Palestinians" - you have to get to the root of the problem to truly understand

Why were Jews not welcome in Palestine to begin with? You should ask yourself these kinds of questions.
Jews live in Palestine already for four hundred years under the Ottomans.
 
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