They can still fix this by Israel paying for the all the damages they did to Northern Gaza and even helping in rebuilding.
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Antisemitism all time high in UK
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Most American Jews vote democrat and oppose Netenyahu. I suppose most UK Jews have similar sentiments so why pick on these people?
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Trump seems to be fixing the problem by baiting Israel haters to hate America instead by taunting Palestinians/Arabs and waging economic war against many nations.
Meanwhile, Israel is silent atm so it seems more likely that Trump's antics is a ploy to provoke Israel haters to leave Israel alone and hate America instead.
All at the cost of its citizens though.
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The UK can hate us just like they hate the Jews. I want them to.
...Because I don't want anything to do with those people anyways. All respect is lost.
Any genetic traces to there, I disown.
...Because I don't want anything to do with those people anyways. All respect is lost.
Any genetic traces to there, I disown.
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Who's "they"?
British Jews aren't in any position to make demands of the Israeli government any more than Jews in the US are.
This seems to be ignoring the obvious problem which is that "bashing anything Jewish" and "celebrating the other side" has become a form of virtue signaling among some of the younger more radical types.
So much so, that they'll prance around out in the streets with Palestinian flags acting like they're the "good guys".
The reality is, absent the conflict, if Israel and Palestine got to operate their own two countries how they see fit and there was no war between the two, and US progressives had to spend one week in Gaza or the West bank under Palestinian authorities, they'd be running for Tel Aviv begging to be let in.
People seem to have lost sight of the fact that being victimized by another group doesn't give someone "good guy status", nor does it, by default, make the victimized group's culture something worthy of celebration and reverence.
Pablo Escobar's organization committed bombings, kidnappings, and murders against the Cali cartel...many innocent people (who were only loosely affiliated) died as a result.
Would the appropriate response to that be for people to start proudly displaying Cali cartel garb and symbolism and speaking of Pacho Herrera as if he was a "good guy"?
Or can we acknowledge that there are sometimes bloody conflicts where nobody is "the good guy"?
This is geopolitics, not big-time wrestling, not every conflict involves a "heel" and "babyface"...sometimes, it's all "heels"
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Why is it when it comes to Isreal and the Jews that people suddenly become irrational. If this was any other people besides Isreal then the response and reaction would be completely different.
Why is that. Think about it. Isreal and the Jews have always been persecuted and yet they have not done anything like what others have done. Even in this very moment. For example the Isrealites and Jews have been experiencing ethnic cleansing and genocide with the Romans, Nazi's and now in Islamist nations where all Isrealis have been either killed or removed.
Yet we never hear the same level of vitriol, anger, violence and outrage about this. Why is that. Think about it. That in itself regardless of the right and wrong is very telling of something beyond rights based politics. Theres something spiritual going on here. Something about belief. I wonder how many of these antisemetics are also anti Christ.
Its also strange how in the west we use to regard this type of radical ideology alien to our culture. It was the stuff overseas extremist engaged in. The idea that some people (non believers or certain ethnic and religious groups) should be wiped out as with Islamists.
But now the very same think and belief has infiltrated free nations. Have the Islamists succeeded in undermining our nations and making us more like them. It seems we are becoming just the same, just as radical.
What is interesting with all these groups and ideologies rising is that they have one thing in common. They all hate Christ, they all hate Gods people the Jews and they all hate Christains.
What does that tell us. Is the end coming. Is this the final battle that all nations will rise up against Gods people and Christ.
Why is that. Think about it. Isreal and the Jews have always been persecuted and yet they have not done anything like what others have done. Even in this very moment. For example the Isrealites and Jews have been experiencing ethnic cleansing and genocide with the Romans, Nazi's and now in Islamist nations where all Isrealis have been either killed or removed.
Yet we never hear the same level of vitriol, anger, violence and outrage about this. Why is that. Think about it. That in itself regardless of the right and wrong is very telling of something beyond rights based politics. Theres something spiritual going on here. Something about belief. I wonder how many of these antisemetics are also anti Christ.
Its also strange how in the west we use to regard this type of radical ideology alien to our culture. It was the stuff overseas extremist engaged in. The idea that some people (non believers or certain ethnic and religious groups) should be wiped out as with Islamists.
But now the very same think and belief has infiltrated free nations. Have the Islamists succeeded in undermining our nations and making us more like them. It seems we are becoming just the same, just as radical.
What is interesting with all these groups and ideologies rising is that they have one thing in common. They all hate Christ, they all hate Gods people the Jews and they all hate Christains.
What does that tell us. Is the end coming. Is this the final battle that all nations will rise up against Gods people and Christ.
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Well yeah, if you're an anti-semite, that's what you'll think.
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I don't think the Jewish diaspora in the UK are anything like as cohesive as they are in the US - according to the JPR institute the split in June last year was more or less 45% Labour to 30% Conservative, which as splits go is roughly similar to the UK popular vote as a whole in the last election
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Ironically, even Jews hate Christ and the Christians.
Judaism/Jews recognize Jesus as a sorcerer in case you didn't know. Judaism is not even remotely similar to Christianity. Judaism came directly from Pharisee and the doctrines they use is the same. The scriptures in use in Judaism originated from Pharisees.
God also made sure Israel gets punished if they did evil (slandering the Son of God would count as one). Doesn't really surprise me if they're seeing trouble. If anything, God has been very merciful towards the Jews so far.
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Jews don't hate Christ and Christians. They disagree but they don't hate them like the antisemites hate the Jews. In a free nation no one has to like beliefs they disagree with. But they should allow them to exist and live their beliefs.
Isreal has 1,000s of Christains that come to Jerusalem every day so I fail to se how they hate the Christains. They have 10.s of 1,000s of Christains living in Isreal. Unlike Muslim nations who have exterminated all Jews. Unlike Western nations who are attacking Jews and Christians and making their life hell.
Judaism didn't come from the Pharisees. It traces back to Abaham, Issac and Jacob (who is also known as Isreal) the patriarchs. Which are the same prophets for Christains. Christains and Jews have this in common.
The Jews did not crucify Jesus it was all humankind. All have sinned and fallen short. It was human sin, the fall that Crucified Jesus. Besides why would God still be punishing someone for something He has sent His Son to forgive us for. What sort of gospel is that. The gospel of revenge and holding gruges.
It seems you have a bee in your bonnet against the Jews. What do you mean GOd has been very merciful against the Jews. What have they done that others also do and in fact have done much worse.
If your all about punishment how about the many Islamists who are killing innocents. What about in western nations where rape, murder, pedophelia, sex trafficking, oppression of people ect is going on. Why are you so eager to single out the Jews.
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There is no genocide or ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza. This is proporganda by antisemites. One of the criteria for genocide is stopping new borns so the ethnic group cannot grow.
Yet there have been more babies born in Gaza than before the conflict. Why is that if the Isreali's are wanting to wipe out the Palestinians.
Palestinians live and work in Isreal, Palestinian Arabs are something like 20% of the population. They can become bosses over Isrealis in business, be judges over Isrealis in the legal system, and be politicians over Isrealis. So why would Isreal allow this is it was ethnic cleansing or genocide.
Westerners falling for these lies are only aiding the radicals who are the true ethnic cleaners who want to wipe Isreal off the face of the earth. How about the radicals ideologues apply their anger to the right people, the ones they support who are doing the genocide.
Look at the chants "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free". We all know this is a genocidal chant that antisemites want to happen in reality. They are shouting genocidal slogans in the streets and in our western institutions and Woke western ideologues like students and politicians are helping the Islamist radicals.
How crazy is that. Westerners are actively wanting to bring down their own nation because they hate the Jews and the west. That shows you where they are really coming from.
I say deport them all to Islamist nations and see how long they continue to support such radical and destructive ideology. They will soon come back home with their tails between their legs and realise that the West including Isreal are the good guys and not the bad ones.
Yet there have been more babies born in Gaza than before the conflict. Why is that if the Isreali's are wanting to wipe out the Palestinians.
Palestinians live and work in Isreal, Palestinian Arabs are something like 20% of the population. They can become bosses over Isrealis in business, be judges over Isrealis in the legal system, and be politicians over Isrealis. So why would Isreal allow this is it was ethnic cleansing or genocide.
Westerners falling for these lies are only aiding the radicals who are the true ethnic cleaners who want to wipe Isreal off the face of the earth. How about the radicals ideologues apply their anger to the right people, the ones they support who are doing the genocide.
Look at the chants "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free". We all know this is a genocidal chant that antisemites want to happen in reality. They are shouting genocidal slogans in the streets and in our western institutions and Woke western ideologues like students and politicians are helping the Islamist radicals.
How crazy is that. Westerners are actively wanting to bring down their own nation because they hate the Jews and the west. That shows you where they are really coming from.
I say deport them all to Islamist nations and see how long they continue to support such radical and destructive ideology. They will soon come back home with their tails between their legs and realise that the West including Isreal are the good guys and not the bad ones.
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Thomas Sowell was asked why is there so much hatred for the Jews throughout history. He said its because they are so successful in what they do. Despite a history of oppression and dispersion they seem to be able to suceed no matter what.
The idea is that if your poor and disadvantaged you belong to the victim groups. But if you suceed your an oppressor.
But I think its more than this as there have been times when Jews were persecuted when in poverty such as the Pogroms against the Jews in Russia in the 19th century.
I have read that the true source of the hatred for the Jews is in the Torah. Back to Mt Sinai when God made the Jews His chosen people. Something in making the Jews Gods people provokes some people. Whether thats because they think the Jews should be cut down to size for claiming to be Gods people.
Or something deeper where just as the ancient Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites or the Jesbusites were attacking Isreal this inherent hatred still lives on and is something more spiritual.
But definitely there is a hyperfocus on the jews and Isreal compared to any other nations or similar context. Its more than cultural, land, or social justice.
The idea is that if your poor and disadvantaged you belong to the victim groups. But if you suceed your an oppressor.
But I think its more than this as there have been times when Jews were persecuted when in poverty such as the Pogroms against the Jews in Russia in the 19th century.
I have read that the true source of the hatred for the Jews is in the Torah. Back to Mt Sinai when God made the Jews His chosen people. Something in making the Jews Gods people provokes some people. Whether thats because they think the Jews should be cut down to size for claiming to be Gods people.
Or something deeper where just as the ancient Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites or the Jesbusites were attacking Isreal this inherent hatred still lives on and is something more spiritual.
But definitely there is a hyperfocus on the jews and Isreal compared to any other nations or similar context. Its more than cultural, land, or social justice.
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