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I think we need some light relief from this all-too depressing thread...and with cow bells! Goes full Animal at 2:50. Yeah!
The draft, feminism, Ephesians, equality, getting punched in the face (?)....all smoke and mirrors. The very first of @Oompa Loompa's arguments actually excludes him from voting (which has been ignored), hence the subsequent laundry list of other reasons.
One doesn’t “deserve to feel offended.” In that context, you’re using it like it’s something she’s awarded. I think you mean is she right to feel offended.
You have been answered multiple times, but you ignored it. Just like you demanded proof of the gender wage gap, I gave it, then you ignored it.
My husband? My husband is the most far left person I know. I think he tested out as the most liberal person in our group on the forum. He used to be the farthest, hardest right on all subjects. As conservative and maybe more in some respects than you. Now he’s hard, far left. This isn’t a secret… Where have you been?
Dude, just say you’re getting schooled by a blue haired feminist, that bothers you, so now instead of facing the music, you’re taking your toys and going home. At least be honest, lol. I’m not the problem here, my guy.
Sure there is. Let's start with the introductory comment; "A big focus of this Christian movement is on a patriarchal society where men are dominant, and women are expected to submit to their husbands."
Then you shouldn't care about the opinion of Pete Hegseth nor the couple in the video. Yet, here you are.
And what about that part about the husband being "the head of the wife as christ is the head of the church" in verse 23? How do you reconcile that?
Headship isn't about male control. It's actually about familial and household unity.
All you have shown is that women generally make less than men because they work less than men. I asked you specifically to show me one example in which a company intentionally paid women less because they were women. Because if you show me one example, I will show you a lawsuit. Again, the gender pay gap has been busted more than my 1996 Ford Ranger.
Women’s earnings were 83.6 percent of men’s in 2023
Equal Pay Day, which symbolizes how far into the year women must work to earn what men earned in the previous year, is on Tuesday, March 12, 2024. Women who were full-time wage and salary workers had median weekly earnings of $1,005 in 2023. That was 83.6 percent of the $1,202 median for men who...www.bls.gov
Women Consistently Earn Less Than Men
A U.S. Census Bureau tool, Quarterly Workforce Indicators (QWI) Explorer, illustrates increases in the gender pay gap as women age.www.census.gov
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Women in the Workforce: The Gender Pay Gap Is Greater for Certain Racial and Ethnic Groups and Varies by Education Level
In recent years, women were underrepresented in management positions and the gender pay gap was greater for certain groups. Published Census Bureau...www.gao.gov
Gender pay gap in U.S. has narrowed slightly over 2 decades
In 2024, women earned an average of 85% of what men earned, according to an analysis of median hourly earnings of both full- and part-time workers.www.pewresearch.org
Why the Gender Pay Gap Persists in American Businesses – Darden Report Online
April 4, 2024 Darden professor Allison Elias, author of "The Rise of Corporate Feminism," on the history of the continuing gender pay gap, where things stand today and new research on possible solutions. –news.darden.virginia.edu
The Simple Truth About the Gender Pay Gap: AAUW Report
Over half a century after pay discrimination became illegal in the United States, a persistent pay gap between men and women continues to hurt our nation’s workers and our national economy.www.aauw.org
The Wage Gap, State by State - National Women's Law Center
Women of all races working full time, year round typically make only 83 cents for every dollar men of all races make, and the size of the disparity varies by statenwlc.org
Gender Pay Gap Statistics 2025: A Comprehensive Analysis - Equal Pay Today
The gender pay gap—the disparity in earnings between men and women—remains a significant global issue, reflecting deep-seated inequalities in labor markets worldwide. This article delves into current statistics, historical trends, regional variations, and contributing factors to the gender pay...www.equalpaytoday.org
Maybe it doesn’t make sense to you because you’re ill-informed on the topic or don’t understand economics, but your understanding something is not a requirement in truth.
It is about leadership and voluntary submission to that leadership. Do you agree that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ontologically equal according to the doctrine of the Holy Trinity? Yet Jesus and the Holy Spirit, although ontologically equal, voluntarily submit to the will of the Father who has established headship. You cannot have leadership without submission, and submission is not a bad thing. After all, Jesus specifically said He could do nothing except by the will of His Father. So although ontologically equal, Jesus voluntarily submitted to the will of His Father.
Why? Because people have done studies on this, and nature confirms it. In nature, creatures although seemingly weak, have elaborate colors to warn predators of their toxicity. Likewise, studies have shown that women with unnatural hair colors such as blue, green, and pink are tying to communicate to their potential predators that they are toxic, so dont approach me.
Therefore you must also agree that Jesus' submission to the will of His father has no reflection to His ontological equality. Therefore you must accept the fact that Jesus willfully submitted to the authority of the Father inspite of the fact that He is ontologically equal. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If you dont like what I am saying, please refer to scripture and prove me wrong.
Need I remind you that you are on a CHRISTIAN FORUM! Yet you act shocked, offended, and surprised that people are espousing CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL VALUES AND BELIEFS that contradict the secular world. Priceless. There are numerous secular forums that are currently discussing the exact same topic, but you are here, on a Christian forum. The title explicitly states "ChristianForums.com" So in light of this information, as surprisingly it may be for you, you truly have the option of staying here and respecting CHRICTIAN BIBLICAL VALUES, or going to an more secular forum. Just saying, if you do not wish to hear a "Christian proposal" about secular issues, you would do well to venture elsewhere.
From the Athanasian Creed:
I am neither shocked, offended nor surprised, I just oppose the policies. You must be aware, however, that because this is a Christian forum there will be Christians posters here who question the authenticity of what you call your Christian biblical values and beliefs.
As I have stated before, there is an ontological unity between the trinity. But what you are deliberately ignoring is the fact that the Son, and the Holy Spirit voluntarily submitted to the will of the Father. I understand that this is a very conflicting truth, because you, as a female priest, would be a contradiction to the written word. So as much as I understand the position you are in, and the sacrifices you have made, you as a female being a priest in unblibical. Sure, I have no issues with women being ministers in specific departments, or even preaching a sermon fome time to time, but ultimately, a man has to be the overarching authority of and church and congregation. Forgive me, although painful as it may seem, ultimately it is the men who addicted their authority to you will have to answer to God.
Sure. And I value and respect them if they can biblically back it up. However, explain to me why any Christian on a "CHRISTIAN FORUM" should be concerned about the secular beliefs of a non-christian?
