Hegseth Boosts Video of Pastors Saying Women Shouldn't Vote, Advocating Repeal of 19th Amendment

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 3:06 PM

dogs4thewin said:
As a wowan way I see it if a particular woman can meet the SAME standards as a man she should be able to serve in that role.

I agree. Unfortunately, you are only talking about 1% of the top 1%. The Marine Corps tried it. The sent hundreds of women to try the Marine Infanty Officer's Course. Only two passed...barely. One of them suffered permanent physical damage because her body was shutting down and now she can nolonger have children.

Here is one such video where enlisted men and women were asked to train together.

Pommer · Friday at 3:09 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Now you are starting to get it. Everything you say is true because that is what men deal with on a daily basis. The caveat would be that if you disrespected the wrong man, expect them to punch you in the face like a man. Do you still think it is a good deal? Some would say, "Equal rights mean equal lefts."

I am not anywhere near being a woman, but I would posit that women (in general) put up with a lot more from men than t’other way round.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 3:18 PM

BCP1928 said:
I know a number of women (not even "modern feminists") who you shouldn't ought to try that on, I don't care how tough you think it makes you sound.

I doubt it. But regardless, my point remains the same, modern feminism doesnt want equality, they want entitlement.

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 3:20 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
I doubt it. But regardless, my point remains the same, modern feminism doesnt want equality, they want entitlement.

Despite the fact a modern feminist has repeatedly said otherwise…

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 3:21 PM

Pommer said:
I am not anywhere near being a woman, but I would posit that women (in general) put up with a lot more from men than t’other way round.

I would argue that men put up with a lot more from other men on top of what they have to put up with in women. Particularly, modern liberal feminists. Traditional women, not so much. They tend to be a blessing to men.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 3:22 PM

Tropical Wilds said:
Despite the fact a modern feminist has repeatedly said otherwise…

So they say, but when push comes to shove, they will be quick to pull the "but I am a girl" card.

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 3:28 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
So they say, but when push comes to shove, they will be quick to pull the "but I am a girl" card.

Have I pulled that card…? Or are you dealing in stereotypes again?

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 3:31 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
I would argue that men put up with a lot more from other men on top of what they have to put up with in women. Particularly, modern liberal feminists.

But women never have to put up with anything men do. Or other women.

Oompa Loompa said:
Traditional women, not so much. They tend to be a blessing to men.

Uh… YMMV. My husband would have a grill sitting in a box for going on 3 years now if I was a “traditional woman.” LoL

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 3:39 PM

Tropical Wilds said:
Am I going to have to answer this again?

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Yes. It does. Here is an idea. What if women started showing equality to men? How many women would be okay with their husband choosing to stay home while the wife works and provides?

Yttrium · Friday at 3:41 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
So they say, but when push comes to shove, they will be quick to pull the "but I am a girl" card.

How about an alternative, Oompa? In order to vote, you have to serve in the active-duty military for at least four years. Registering for the selective service is nothing, since the draft isn't being used these days. Let's all be like Starship Troopers. Service is citizenship. If you haven't served, no more vote for you. Why isn't that your standard instead of something pointless? Works for me. I'd still be voting.

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 3:44 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Yes. It does. Here is an idea. What if women started showing equality to men? How many women would be okay with their husband choosing to stay home while the wife works and provides?

I don’t have all women on my speed dial, but I suspect the answer would be the same as it is when they discuss the woman stays home while the husband work… Some would support it, some wouldn’t.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 3:46 PM

Tropical Wilds said:
Have I pulled that card…? Or are you dealing in stereotypes again?

Every time you ever asked a man to help you with a task because you couldn't do it on your own and you knew a man could do it more easily, you pulled the "but I am a girl" card. In spite of modern feminism making so much strides in "equality," why is just about every blue collar hard labor job dominated by men? Where are all these feminists replacing roofs? Where are all these feminists at the oil rigs? Where are all these feminists at the auto repair shop? Where are all these feminist at the construction sites? I will tell you where, they pulled the "I am just a girl" card and went to the office in spite the fact that many of those jobs are higher paying. But they will still cry about the gender wage gap.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 3:47 PM

Yttrium said:
How about an alternative, Oompa? In order to vote, you have to serve in the active-duty military for at least four years. Registering for the selective service is nothing, since the draft isn't being used these days. Let's all be like Starship Troopers. Service is citizenship. If you haven't served, no more vote for you. Why isn't that your standard instead of something pointless? Works for me. I'd still be voting.

I will vote for that. Many other countries do it. I believe even Switzerland does it.

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 3:58 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Every time you ever asked a man to help you with a task because you couldn't do it on your own and you knew a man could do it more easily, you pulled the "but I am a girl" card.

So every time I made dinner, cleaned the house, did something for a child, found an item in the that was right there but they didn’t bother looking for before asking me for help, or otherwise relying on me to do something they can do if they just put out a little more effort, is that pulling the “but I’m a boy!” card?

Oompa Loompa said:
In spite of modern feminism making so much strides in "equality," why is just about every blue collar hard labor job dominated by men? Where are all these feminists replacing roofs? Where are all these feminists at the oil rigs? Where are all these feminists at the auto repair shop? Where are all these feminist at the construction sites?

I see them there… One half of the team who replaced my water heater were women. I can’t help that you don’t see them. We’ve established that you live in a rough-and-tumble neighborhood with people regularly thumping on each other for no reason. I suspect most women avoid a neighborhood like that.

Because there are industries dominated by women and not men, does that mean don’t actually want equality, are throwing away their god-given authority, and thus ineligible for rights?

Oompa Loompa said:
I will tell you where, they pulled the "I am just a girl" card and went to the office in spite the fact that many of those jobs are higher paying. But they will still cry about the gender wage gap.

No, women cry about the gender wage gap because the person in the desk next to them doing the same job gets paid more if they have a penis. Or the woman on the roof gets paid less than the guy on the roof next to her. Or on the construction sites next to her get paid more. They don’t cry that other unrelated industries get paid more than they do. That doesn’t even make sense.

Yttrium · Friday at 4:01 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
I will vote for that. Many other countries do it. I believe even Switzerland does it.

I put that out there because you complain about women not registering for selective service (even though they're not allowed to) while seemingly ignoring the fact that many women are already in the military. Obviously not all women are just trying to avoid military service.

BCP1928 · Friday at 4:05 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Yes. It does. Here is an idea. What if women started showing equality to men? How many women would be okay with their husband choosing to stay home while the wife works and provides?

That has happened a number of times over my 45 years of marriage. It depended on who could get a better job at any given time. Of course, when my wife was the breadwinner I took over the housekeeping and childcare duties. When we both worked we shared them, because none of that is branded "mans" work or "woman's" work.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 4:09 PM

Yttrium said:
I put that out there because you complain about women not registering for selective service (even though they're not allowed to) while seemingly ignoring the fact that many women are already in the military. Obviously not all women are just trying to avoid military service.

While what you say is true, it still does not change the fact that equality does not just mean feminists women should just pick and choose what they want to be equal. They want equal pay, but they dont want equal working conditions. They want all the male privileges, but also they want to keep the female privileges. Strongly, I am not seeing any woman's rights activists protesting for child support reform.

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 4:15 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Strongly, I am not seeing any woman's rights activists protesting for child support reform.

I do… But as a reminder, if you feel the court unfairly shortchanged your kids the support they deserve, you’re welcome (and allowed) to pay more than the court designates.

BCP1928 · Friday at 4:16 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
While what you say is true, it still does not change the fact that equality does not just mean feminists women should just pick and choose what they want to be equal. They want equal pay, but they dont want equal working conditions. They want all the male privileges, but also they want to keep the female privileges.

Sounds like a win-win to me. You should try it.

iluvatar5150 · Friday at 4:31 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Yes. It does. Here is an idea. What if women started showing equality to men? How many women would be okay with their husband choosing to stay home while the wife works and provides?

Here in the 21st century, amongst my circles, that question seems to typically be answered based on who makes more money. In most cases, neither makes enough to allow one parent to stay home. When one does make enough, it's usually, though not always, the guy who does. There is a stay-at-home dad a block down from me with 3 kids and IIRC a wife who's some kind of doctor. If my wife was pulling down enough money for this to be feasible, I'd probably be more inclined to stay home than her. We each have our strengths when it comes to child-rearing, but temperamentally, I'm the one better suited to that arrangement.

Oompa Loompa said:
Every time you ever asked a man to help you with a task because you couldn't do it on your own and you knew a man could do it more easily, you pulled the "but I am a girl" card.

lol, you sure it's not just the "you're taller/stronger than me" card?

In spite of modern feminism making so much strides in "equality," why is just about every blue collar hard labor job dominated by men? Where are all these feminists replacing roofs? Where are all these feminists at the oil rigs? Where are all these feminists at the auto repair shop? Where are all these feminist at the construction sites? I will tell you where, they pulled the "I am just a girl" card and went to the office in spite the fact that many of those jobs are higher paying. But they will still cry about the gender wage gap.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with those career fields being hellholes of toxicity, does it?

When I did live audio production, there were tons of female stagehands and techs - not as many as dudes, but way more than in other trades. They were pushing stagecarts and roadcases, rigging lights, building sets, just like the guys. The difference wasn't the work, but the culture.

I don't quite understand how plumbing toilets would offend the female sensibilities while lifting obese patients and cleaning beadpans wouldn't.

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