Hegseth Boosts Video of Pastors Saying Women Shouldn't Vote, Advocating Repeal of 19th Amendment

BCP1928 · Friday at 11:05 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
Now you are starting to get it. Everything you say is true because that is what men deal with on a daily basis. The caveat would be that if you disrespected the wrong man, expect them to punch you in the face like a man. Do you still think it is a good deal? Some would say, "Equal rights mean equal lefts."

Again, I ask the question, what does it mean to be treated like a man?

Oompa Loompa said:
Great! That is all I am asking. As another poster said, "Women should be treated like the women they are." Traditional women should be treated in a traditional manner. Modern feminists who demand to be treated equal to a man should be treated equal to a man. Unfortunately, that would require women to make a choice, and you know how much modern feminist love their right to choose, but it will force them to choose to either have their cake OR eat it.

That would not be equal treatment. "Traditional" women would be required to register as well.

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 11:06 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
Your female privilege is showing.

LoL, is it? Because goodness knows, as a woman I don’t know anything about people being violent towards you because of perceived disrespect.

Oompa Loompa said:
Yes. If a man disrespects the wrong man, they will potentially get punched in the face.

Sounds like you hang with a rough crowd.

But anyway, is the allegation that the only reason you assume I haven’t been assaulted is because I’m a woman and men don’t hit women? And now all bets are off and people will just randomly be assaulting each other over being disrespected?

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 11:16 AM

iluvatar5150 said:
Do you think that's what "strength" looks like in a man? Punching somebody over a perceived slight?

No. Biblical masculinity means that men are created to be the stronger sex, but their strength was intended to be used to not for themselves, but to protect and defend the weak and those they love. But we are not talking about biblical masculinity, are we. We are talking about what the world has determined. The world has determined that women should be treated equally to men. Men often show violent aggression towards men who disrespect them. Therefore, logically feminist women who want to be treated equally to men ought not be surprised when they find themselves knocked unconscious when they disrespect the wrong man.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 11:17 AM

BCP1928 said:
Again, I ask the question, what does it mean to be treated like a man?

That would not be equal treatment. "Traditional" women would be required to register as well.

Are you a man? Can you even define what a man is? A deeper question is when does a boy become a man in western culture?

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 11:31 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
No. Biblical masculinity means that men are created to be the stronger sex, but their strength was intended to be used to not for themselves, but to protect and defend the weak and those they love.

So then women need to protect men…? What are men doing that they need to hit each other and then women need to be treated as men so they can defend them…?

Oompa Loompa said:
But we are not talking about biblical masculinity, are we. We are talking about what the world has determined. The world has determined that women should be treated equally to men. Men often show violent aggression towards men who disrespect them.

… Do they…?

Oompa Loompa said:
Therefore, logically feminist women who want to be treated equally to men ought not be surprised when they find themselves knocked unconscious when they disrespect the wrong man.

And that’s not something they have to worry about now? The only thing that prevents it is the pretense of men treating women in a way that’s anti-feminist?

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 11:39 AM

Tropical Wilds said:
LoL, is it? Because goodness knows, as a woman I don’t know anything about people being violent towards you because of perceived disrespect.

Lol! That is because you have never been punched in the face for disrespecting a man. Why? Because you are a women. Still want to be treated equally to a man?

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 11:47 AM

Tropical Wilds said:
And that’s not something they have to worry about now?

Are you surprised that modern feminist women who demand to be treated equally with men may find themselves being treated equally with men when they disrespect a man? Priceless.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 11:49 AM

ViaCrucis said:
Turn off the podcasts and go to church.

-CryptoLutheran

Please good sir, explain to me just one single statement I made that was not biblically correct. Please, provide a single scripture reference to show me the error of my ways. It appears that it is the feminists who need to "go to church."

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 12:03 PM

BCP1928 said:
Again, I ask the question, what does it mean to be treated like a man?

That would not be equal treatment. "Traditional" women would be required to register as well.

Nope. I am giving women special treatment because I believe them to be special and unique. Therefore, they deserve the female privilege of making a choice of being a biblically traditional woman, or a modern feminist. They can freely choose to either keep the female privilege, or be given the equality with men they desire. Men do not have that choice.

BCP1928 · Friday at 12:03 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Are you a man? Can you even define what a man is?

Why should I, when apparently you cannot?

Oompa Loompa said:
A deeper question is when does a boy become a man in western culture?

Can you respond to my post? If women should be subjected to the draft, why should there be an exemption for some cultural stereotype you call "traditional women?"

Oompa Loompa said:
No. Biblical masculinity means that men are created to be the stronger sex, but their strength was intended to be used to not for themselves, but to protect and defend the weak and those they love. But we are not talking about biblical masculinity, are we. We are talking about what the world has determined. The world has determined that women should be treated equally to men. Men often show violent aggression towards men who disrespect them.

Which is certainly not a "manly" trait by anybody's definition.

Oompa Loompa said:
Therefore, logically feminist women who want to be treated equally to men ought not be surprised when they find themselves knocked unconscious when they disrespect the wrong man.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 12:16 PM

BCP1928 said:
If women should be subjected to the draft, why should there be an exemption for some cultural stereotype you call "traditional women?"

Because female privilege should only apply to self-respecting traditional women who want to be treated like a lady, not to the liberal femisists who demand to be treated like men.

RocksInMyHead · Friday at 12:21 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Lol! That is because you have never been punched in the face for disrespecting a man. Why? Because you are a women. Still want to be treated equally to a man?

There is, sadly, no shortage of men who would punch a woman in the face (or otherwise abuse her) over a perceived slight. And I would posit that the overlap between men who would punch a woman for such a thing and men who would punch another man for disrespect is rather large. I can say that I - as a man - have never been punched (in the face or otherwise) for disrespecting someone either, and the last time that I punched someone myself in anger, I was about twelve.

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 12:21 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Lol! That is because you have never been punched in the face for disrespecting a man.

Interesting you think that.

Is saying a woman not getting punched in the face by a man really an “lol” kind of comment?

Oompa Loompa said:
Why? Because you are a women. Still want to be treated equally to a man?

Be prepared to be shocked… Yes, despite your fixation with determining when it’s apporpriate to punch a woman in the face, I still think women deserve to be treated equally.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 12:28 PM

RocksInMyHead said:
There is, sadly, no shortage of men who would punch a woman in the face (or otherwise abuse her) over a perceived slight. And I would posit that the overlap between men who would punch a woman for such a thing and men who would punch another man for disrespect is rather large. I can say that I - as a man - have never been punched (in the face or otherwise) for disrespecting someone either, and the last time that I punched someone myself in anger, I was about twelve.

Now, please explain to our liberal feminist friends here who believe that women should be treated equally to men, why it is wrong for a man to punch a woman more so than a man punching another man?

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 12:29 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Are you surprised that modern feminist women who demand to be treated equally with men may find themselves being treated equally with men when they disrespect a man? Priceless.

Are you asking if I’m surprised there are men who would punch a woman in the face for saying something “wrong” to a man, no, I’m not surprised.

Surprised to see somebody advocating for it so openly? A little.

Surprised that it’s being done by somebody who just quoted a Bible? Not as much as I should be.

Surprised to see it here? Openly? Without reproach from anybody but the “liberals” and usual dissenters of the forum? That one has me a bit surprised.

But in general, I find nothing you’re say particularly insightful or provocative. This isn’t my first time seeing a guy advocating for violence against women under the guise of equal rights or justifying violence against women, online or in person. It isn’t even my 100th time. Frankly, you’re not blazing any trails not blazed before you or saying anything new.

At this point, as I said, I’m seeing how deep you’re willing to go down the pit and making notes on who is… And isn’t… Saying anything to you about it.

Tropical Wilds · Friday at 12:31 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Now, please explain to our liberal feminist friends here who believe that women should be treated equally to men, why it is wrong for a man to punch a woman more so than a man punching another man?

You would like me to explain why I think it’s wrong to assault people…? You think feminists don’t already know why assault is bad…?

RocksInMyHead · Friday at 12:32 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
Now, please explain to our liberal feminist friends here who believe that women should be treated equally to men, why it is wrong for a man to punch a woman more so than a man punching another man?

It isn't? Both are equally wrong. The only time you should be punching someone (outside of martial arts competition/training, I guess) is in defending yourself or someone else from another person's assault. And whether you're being assaulted by a woman or a man isn't really relevant.

Not hitting a woman out of "chivalry" rather than the simple concept that "assault is wrong" is pretty disturbing, not gonna lie. It's like those who tell you that their Christian faith is the only thing stopping them from raping or murdering people. Like, I'm glad you're not doing that, but that fact that religion is the only thing stopping you and not - y'know - your conscience? That suggests there's something very wrong with you.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 12:34 PM

Tropical Wilds said:
Be prepared to be shocked… Yes, despite your fixation with determining when it’s apporpriate to punch a woman in the face, I still think women deserve to be treated equally.

Okay. Then for you, equal rights mean equal lefts. That is your choice. Fix your own car and do your own repairs. Personally, if I see you on the side of the road with a flat tire, I will pull over and ask if you have a spare. Of not, I will give you the number for a tow company. If yes, I will drive on assuming you know how to change your own tire by yourself.

dogs4thewin · Friday at 12:39 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
I personally think that if women want to vote, they need to register for selective service. I mean, if they want equality, then equal rights mean equal fights.

I am a woman (granted too old to be drafted under current law, but also wanted to serve if my health would have allowed it volunitary if you want to be equal that means equal in good and bad.

Oompa Loompa · Friday at 12:40 PM

RocksInMyHead said:
It isn't? Both are equally wrong. The only time you should be punching someone (outside of martial arts competition/training, I guess) is in defending yourself or someone else from another person's assault. And whether you're being assaulted by a woman or a man isn't really relevant.

Nope. Although both are wrong, they are not both equally wrong. For example, a man approaches another man and spits in his face only for the man to knock him out. Compare that to a woman spitting in a man's face only for the man to knock the woman out. Which is worse?

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