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A New Dawn said:

Wow. Conspiracy theory much?

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Most of it was facts.
Trump does have NPD, has been convicted and sued for horrible things, does love tariffs even though Adam Smith himself hated them, DID pass the BBB which is dropping 16 MILLION off healthcare, HAS given nearly $1 Trillion a year in tax cuts to the uber rich while cutting these essential services to the poor, HAS previously bent the knee to Putin by demanding Ukraine submit to Trump's deal. "It's going to be great TV!" Because this guy loves to annoy people. He loves their adoration or outright a very and fury - either way it means he is the centre of attention which confirms to his fragile ego that he is the most important person in the world.

Look up NPD. All of this is meeting his need for Narcissistic Supply.

Please - which of these are not facts?

Finally - I agree. The last few paragraphs DID get a bit conspiratorial.

I hope they do not happen.

But when even Australia's Four Corners did a double episode covering Project 2025 - it does make me fear for your democracy.

A New Dawn said:

You seem to suggest that someone committing a crime is only a criminal if they are charged. That is patently false. He had done that activity prior to being appointed, and he did it again after he was appointed.

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It is possible to hire someone you did not know was a criminal, then find out, then take appropriate measures.

On the other hand Trump pardoned how many violent criminals who attacked the Capitol and assaulted police in an act of treason?

And now even the Shaman that Trump pardoned is turning on Trump for not releasing the Epstein files!

And you accuse me of conspiracy theories!?

In some people's minds, that's as bad as molesting children.

But not for most of us.

A New Dawn said:

It’s a crime, and he elevated a criminal to an appointed position in the government.

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Trump is a criminal elevated to a position in the government.

But as I said, most of us consider molesting children to be more despicable than stealing luggage. To most Americans, cross-dressing is just funny, not threatening.

essentialsaltes said:

No, he hired a non-criminal to an appointed position, and then they were put on leave and later dismissed when charges were filed.

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To be fair, the American people (the first time) voted Trump as president before we knew he was a criminal.

eclipsenow said:

I'll try to remember Jordan Peterson's advice.
Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence.

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This seems to be a lift by JP of Hanlon’s razor.

A New Dawn said:

Does Trump act like a child sometimes? Yes, and I will call that out. And I’ll call out something I believe is a bad policy, too.

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This thread is about matters that concern Trump. The topic is Trump. The conversation was about Trump. The Epstein files are being debated because of Trump. Try to concern yourself with Trump when the thread is talking about nothing but Trump.

Want to discuss those rascally Democrats? Then feel free to start a thread. And please, if anyone really thinks that Trump has done nothing outlandish then they must be living in a cave somewhere. So if someone points out one of the most recent things he's done, deal with as it is without trying to excuse it and deflect from it with schoolyard level arguments.

A New Dawn said:

It’s a crime, and he elevated a criminal to an appointed position in the government.

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If so, then he's just following the electorate's lead. Republican voters did the same thing back in November. And Trump was actually tried and convicted when they did that, unlike that other guy.

A New Dawn said:

You seem to suggest that someone committing a crime is only a criminal if they are charged. That is patently false. He had done that activity prior to being appointed, and he did it again after he was appointed.

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You may want to ask some of your pro-Trump friends about the concept of "innocent until proven guilty." They were all over that back when Trump was on trial for 34 criminal fraud felonies.

-- A2SG, all of which he was convicted of, by the way, in case you missed the news....