Hegseth Boosts Video of Pastors Saying Women Shouldn't Vote, Advocating Repeal of 19th Amendment

DaisyDay · 2025-08-10T09:29:45-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
Sorry. I didn't see that post.

Huh. You didn't see the post you quoted and responded to? Well, that's odd.

Yttrium · 2025-08-10T10:29:03-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
Name me one feminist arguing in favor of selective service. I will wait.

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand

That was super easy. I could list more, if you want.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-08-10T11:02:02-0500

JustaPewFiller said:
What did he say about outside the church? I'd be curious to read it.

I don’t know. They cut to something else before that part of his answer.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-08-10T11:20:16-0500

Yttrium said:
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand

That was super easy. I could list more, if you want.

Could you provide a source please?

Yttrium · 2025-08-10T12:05:57-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
Could you provide a source please?

See here and scroll to the bottom:

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www.gillibrand.senate.gov

Richard T · 2025-08-10T12:27:13-0500

I wonder if these Christian nationalists know that there never was a Federal ban on women voting. They were not allowed to vote because of the state rules. Some states/territories allowed women to vote as early as 1869 (Wyoming territory.)

Bradskii · 2025-08-10T18:54:42-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
Could you provide a source please?

I'm still waiting for you to tell me if you wouldn't mind if your wife lost her vote. It wasn't a hypothetical question.

Pommer · 2025-08-10T23:49:14-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
https://apnews.com/article/women-hegseth-defense-secretary-religion-d962f472910fb47a0c66cd37b01f550d

In the post, Hegseth commented on an almost seven-minute-long report by CNN examining Doug Wilson, cofounder of the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches, or CREC. The report featured a pastor from Wilson’s church advocating the repeal of women’s right to vote from the Constitution, and another pastor saying that in his ideal world, people would vote as households. It also featured a female congregant saying that she submits to her husband.

“All of Christ for All of Life,” Hegseth wrote in his post that accompanied the video.

The post:

https://x.com/PeteHegseth/status/1953626931234054558

The video is of a CNN piece interviewing Doug Wilson and other pastors from the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches, with which Hegseth's church is apparently affiliated. One of the topics they broach is voting and several of them advocate returning to a system where women don't have individual votes, but rather the husband votes for his entire household. One pastor explicitly advocates for the repeal of the 19th amendment.

Imagine thinking that taking away rights is a “good thing”.
Is this where we are now?
Huh.

So, Pastor Wilson would like the USA to be a Christian nation, in a Christian world?

Look, it’s fine if people would like it if society was more in the control of Christians, (you’re mostly a great bunch!); but Wilson sounds as if he sees this as (part of his) “mission”.
Not being a Christian, myself, this doesn’t bother me at all.

It starts with “a Christian nation”, then it becomes the right kind of “Christian”.
Heretical churches wouldn’t be outlawed [as such] but let them try and get a zoning-waver to replace their steeple!

When all the correct* Christians are in charge, then we could set-our-sights upon getting the world to join our wisdom!
Or else.

Getting an entire planet with over 8 billion souls to the point of being able to call it a “Christian planet”, would require more than just tariffs as a velvet cudgel.

*oh, [Historically], when the Christians run things, they tend to sort out who’s okay and who should be made to see reason or get the heck outta the way. If a person “decides” to not belong to a favored flavor of Christianity, then they’ll have a hard time finding a job, or a bank to lend them money. People will see reason, they always do.
And of course the people deciding which denominations are kosher, will eventually make sure that such spiritual-allegiances to “correct churches”, will be strongly encouraged, even as they guard themselves against lying mountebanks who will only be committing to their new “faith” to make things easier), so they’re make it difficult to join.
And right like that, clerics are back in charge!

Yup, I’d be worried if I was a Christian, but I’m not, so : whew!::

Pommer · 2025-08-10T23:52:34-0500

ozso said:
Oh my, so non-woke.

So, have you formed an opinion about the Christian-Nationalist who’d be happy of half the population was silenced, politically?

ozso · 2025-08-11T03:12:11-0500

Pommer said:
So, have you formed an opinion about the Christian-Nationalist who’d be happy of half the population was silenced, politically?

Neither Hegseth nor Wilson say anything about women voting in video footage. And there's no quote in the article from either of them about women voting. Rather someone else said that he and his wife should reach a mutual decision on who to vote for, and as head of the family he should cast the vote. Which is just one guy's way of wanting to do things in his family.

So it seems to me there's some definite straw grasping going on with this. And one man's opinion is somehow supposed to allude that the Trump administration is planning on repealing the 19th amendment.

FenderTL5 · 2025-08-11T04:07:37-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
If they have a vote to go to war..

Just curious, has going to war ever been put to a referendum voted on by the citizens?

I thought that was was only a congressional act (one that has been usurped by a few presidents).

iluvatar5150 · 2025-08-11T05:22:19-0500

ozso said:
Neither Hegseth nor Wilson say anything about women voting in video footage. And there's no quote in the article from either of them about women voting. Rather someone else said that he and his wife should reach a mutual decision on who to vote for, and as head of the family he should cast the vote. Which is just one guy's way of wanting to do things in his family.

So it seems to me there's some definite straw grasping going on with this.

No, there is no grasping at straws here. The CNN narrator says that Wilson holds those beliefs and then talks to two individuals from his church who share those beliefs.

Wilson himself has espoused them here (the relevant bit starts at 6:20):

The relevant bit is also quoted on the second page of this piece:

Douglas Wilson Argues That Giving Women the Right To Vote Is the Result of ‘Men Becoming Spiritual Eunuchs’

Pastor Douglas Wilson of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, made waves online after arguing against women’s right to vote in a video last week.

churchleaders.com

ozso said:
And one man's opinion is somehow supposed to allude that the Trump administration is planning on repealing the 19th amendment.

Nobody here claimed that. But it does suggest a certain amount of sexism and undermines his ability to present himself as a fair and impartial leader.

ozso · 2025-08-11T05:54:30-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
No, there is no grasping at straws here. The CNN narrator says that Wilson holds those beliefs and then talks to two individuals from his church who share those beliefs.

Wilson himself has espoused them here (the relevant bit starts at 6:20):

The relevant bit is also quoted on the second page of this piece:

Douglas Wilson Argues That Giving Women the Right To Vote Is the Result of ‘Men Becoming Spiritual Eunuchs’

Pastor Douglas Wilson of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, made waves online after arguing against women’s right to vote in a video last week.

churchleaders.com

Nobody here claimed that. But it does suggest a certain amount of sexism and undermines his ability to present himself as a fair and impartial leader.

One shouldn't have to go beyond what's contained in the OP.

ViaCrucis · 2025-08-11T07:28:47-0500

Never heard of CREC before, but then I don't spend a lot of time in Reformed circles. The little bit of looking around I did led me to a lot of conversations between Reformed folk who don't have a lot of nice things to say about CREC.

-CryptoLutheran

Oompa Loompa · 2025-08-11T07:37:19-0500

Bradskii said:
I'm still waiting for you to tell me if you wouldn't mind if your wife lost her vote. It wasn't a hypothetical question.

I answered the question.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-08-11T07:53:18-0500

Fantine said:
Trump's cabinet is so incompetent it's hard to pick out the worst one, but this certainly moves Hegseth up in the ratings.Kr

RFK, Jr. Kristi Noem

We have Linda McMahon, Education Secretary, touring, and all the comments I've seen are things like "Is she bringing the AI steak sauce? Looking for the next Hulk Hogan?"

I can't quite figure it out, but the president is shrewd if nothing else. Maybe he chooses these people for two reasons: 1) to make himself look good (or more likely, not as awful) by comparison and 2) Cabinet members like them are easy to shift blame to and scapegoat.

The left and Democratic Party often repeat the same error: attributing every policy or action they disagree with to President Trump personally. In reality, the actions of the Trump administration represent the preferences of approximately 40% of Americans, rather than solely being the fault of President Trump.

Many Americans believe that women should not have the right to vote. There is a book by Ann Coulter, written prior to President Trump's involvement in politics, that discusses this perspective. Some American churches claim that societal issues stem from women working outside the home, arguing that women should focus on raising children instead. They are wrong. but that is the reality. Many Americans has such view.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-08-11T07:53:45-0500

ozso said:
One shouldn't have to go beyond what's contained in the OP.

And yet, that's exactly what you did when you wrote this:

Which is just one guy's way of wanting to do things in his family.

So it seems to me there's some definite straw grasping going on with this.

The CNN narrator claimed (accurately) that Wilson held these views, but opted to use footage of his associates describing those views. You went beyond the OP by making claims that amount to accusing the CNN report of being dishonest about Wilson's position on the matter and, essentially, finding him guilty by association.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-08-11T07:56:12-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
Sure. If they have a vote to go to war, they should also have some skin in the game. So, selective service for the women. You want 'equality,' then get the equality you deserve. How may women would vote for a President knowing that he or she could potentially send then off to the front lines? Likely, the result would be the most hardened feminist would be making my sandwich in a 1950's outfit before they put on a military uniform.

Example:

Didn't the US military open all combat roles to women in 2013? Which service are you referring to?

essentialsaltes · 2025-08-11T08:36:59-0500

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
Didn't the US military open all combat roles to women in 2013? Which service are you referring to?

'Selective Service' is 'the draft'. Although it's not in use, men still register for it.

durangodawood · 2025-08-11T08:43:44-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
I answered the question.

What post of yours answered that question?

Hegseth Boosts Video of Pastors Saying Women Shouldn't Vote, Advocating Repeal of 19th Amendment

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