Another look at the moon landing.

David Lamb said:

Strong in Him had written: "The devil is at war with God; that's why Paul wrote about spiritual warfare. The shape of the earth has nothing to do with that.." Now you say that it (the devil being at war with God) has everything to do with space. How?

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Watch the video.

you tube https://youtu.be/HVYeJduJeWA?si=Oz_lke_KG6zoloKd

Apple Sky said:

No, but has every thing to do with space.

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No it doesn't.

And you still haven't answered my previous two posts.
You believe Isaiah says that the earth is a circle, you agree that a circle is curved; how, then, can the earth NOT be curved?

Apple Sky said:

Watch the video.

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No, this is a debate forum.
If you want to make a point, or quote someone else who is making a point, then do so. If you don't want, or can't be bothered to, so be it - you have no argument.

Strong in Him said:

No, this is a debate forum.
If you want to make a point, or quote someone else who is making a point, then do so. If you don't want, or can't be bothered to, so be it - you have no argument.

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What you afraid of ? That Rob is telling the truth ?

Apple Sky said:

What you afraid of ? That Rob is telling the truth ?

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Not afraid at all.
I just don't want to watch a video, which will almost certainly be nonsense, when I have far better things to do. If you wanted me to know what it said, you would summarise it.

Still no comment on my statements that Isaiah says the earth is a circle, you say a circle is curved, but the earth is, somehow, a circle which is not curved.
What are you afraid of; that you've shot yourself in the foot again?

My father in law was an engineer that worked for NASA during the mercury and Apollo programs. He worked with a team that designed the legs for the lunar lander. The lunar landing happened and the return to earth happened. There is no doubt about it.

During those flights the astronauts that my father in law knew talked about the experience. All calculations for the flight were done to depart from a sphere to land in another sphere. The earth is round just as the moon (and every other planet in the universe) is round.

It is time to put this ignorant conspiracy theory to rest.

Strong in Him said:

I just don't want to watch a video, which will almost certainly be nonsense,

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Well stop being too quick to judge Rob then.

Strong in Him said:

Still no comment on my statements that Isaiah says the earth is a circle, you say a circle is curved, but the earth is, somehow, a circle which is not curved.

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Apple Sky said:

Watch the video.

you tube https://youtu.be/HVYeJduJeWA?si=Oz_lke_KG6zoloKd

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But I thought this forum was for discussion. Why cannot you just write an answer - it doesn't need to be long, just something to say why you (not the makers of the video) believe that the war between God and Satan has everything to do with space?

Apple Sky said:

Well stop being too quick to judge Rob then.

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But judging somebody's beliefs doesn't depend on watching a video.

I'm not sure why you put a confused emoji in response to these words of Strong in Him: "Still no comment on my statements that Isaiah says the earth is a circle, you say a circle is curved, but the earth is, somehow, a circle which is not curved." You had written a very confusing post (1765) saying: "Because it's not, a circle is curved but the earth is not."

Hentenza said:

My father in law was an engineer that worked for NASA during the mercury and Apollo programs. He worked with a team that designed the legs for the lunar lander.

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I reckon this is the nearest they got to building the Apollo 11 space ship.

David Lamb said:

But judging somebody's beliefs doesn't depend on watching a video.

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It does when someone judges them to be wrong.

Apple Sky said:

It does when someone judges them to be wrong.

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That is why it is much better for you to write something like: "So-and-So has made a video in which they explain that................" rather than just commanding us to watch the video. As I and others have said, this isn't a cinema, but a discussion forum. Linking to a video can be useful to illustrate our posts, but not instead of our posts.

Apple Sky said:

I reckon this is the nearest they got to building the Apollo 11 space ship.

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So Hentenza's father-in-law is lying, according to you?

Apple Sky said:

Well stop being too quick to judge Rob then.

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I'm not.
He is described as a Flat Earth preacher - I don't accept that the earth is flat.
He is described, on his own website, as a "nephilim theorist" who brings another perspective to the "UFO/alien" discussion - I don't accept there are UFOs or aliens.
He seemed to think that Christmas was pagan.
He was someone who was critical of the Covid vaccine and who died from Covid.
These are facts; I know you'll dispute the last one but, as you said yourself, you are addicted to conspiracy theories and there is no evidence that he was murdered.

So it is quite reasonable for me to suggest that a film that has been made by Rob, and which you are so keen to promote, will be, or contain, nonsense.

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Again, I'm not sure why you are confused.

You have previously made two specific statements:
i) Isaiah says that the earth is a circle. It has been explained to you that the Bible does not teach the shape of the earth; it has also been pointed out that there is poetry in the Bible. It seems that you don't accept this. So one of your arguments is "the earth is a circle, it says so in the Bible."
ii) You have agreed that a circle is curved.

So, since you know that the earth is a circle and that a circle is curved, and not a straight line, square or whatever, why have you spent so much time arguing against the curvature of the earth?
When someone says that a ship disappears over the horizon, or the sun sets, due to the curvature of the earth, why don't you agree and say, "yes, because the earth is a circle"?
When photos of the earth, taken from space, have been posted, why haven't you said, "see, Isaiah was right; the earth is a circle"? Why talk about fish eye lenses and pictures being faked?

You have also said that the earth is a circle and a circle is curved but the earth isn't.
I'm asking you to explain, if you can, these contradictory statements. And also - if you can - why you don't like people talking about the curvature of the earth when you know that the earth, being a circle, is curved.

My hunch is that you can't, which is why you changed the subject by posting a Rob Skiba video.

Apple Sky said:

I reckon this is the nearest they got to building the Apollo 11 space ship.

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So why, several months ago, did you scan and post some pages from a book which had been written by someone who had worked on the Apollo rockets?

And I'm sorry, but that is clearly NOT the closest they got.
If toy makers are selling kits that allow people to build a miniature space rocket, it's because there was a real rocket in the first place.
Just as if a film maker wants to make a film of the moon landings, it's because they were a real, historical event, they know that the public will be interested in it and they'll no doubt make a lot of money. Because there is so much evidence of the moon landings available, if they misrepresented them, or tried to claim that something happened when it didn't, they would lose credibility, no one would watch the film and they'd lose money.

David Lamb said:

So Hentenza's father-in-law is lying, according to you?

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No - I believe he built the legs, but I don't believe that Apollo 11 ship landed on the moon.

you tube https://youtu.be/s6vAiyUIQog?si=6z0xYQ2aR9mvNryX

Strong in Him said:

If toy makers are selling kits that allow people to build a miniature space rocket, it's because there was a real rocket in the first place.

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There may have been but it never went to the moon.

It's like something a kid put together, where did they get the blue prints from, Blue Peter ? Look here's one I made earlier

you tube https://youtu.be/s6vAiyUIQog?si=6z0xYQ2aR9mvNryX

Apple Sky said:

No - I believe he built the legs, but I don't believe that Apollo 11 ship landed on the moon.

you tube https://youtu.be/s6vAiyUIQog?si=6z0xYQ2aR9mvNryX

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So you don't believe these words about his father-in-law: "During those flights the astronauts that my father in law knew talked about the experience." How many liars there must be for all your ideas about moon landings, the shape of the earth, the nature of Antarctica, and so on to be true!

David Lamb said:

So you don't believe these words about his father-in-law: "During those flights the astronauts that my father in law knew talked about the experience." How many liars there must be for all your ideas about moon landings, the shape of the earth, the nature of Antarctica, and so on to be true!

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I believe in compartmentalization, a need to know basis.

Apple Sky said:

There may have been but it never went to the moon.

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You know it did. You once believed it and apologised to God for doubting.

There were many space missions, and several moon landings, not just one.

Apple Sky said:

It's like something a kid put together, where did they get the blue prints from, Blue Peter ? Look here's one I made earlier

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Don't be ridiculous.

Are you going to explain your statement that the earth is a circle and a circle is curved, but the earth isn't - or not?
Is this one of your "I've backed myself into a corner and I can't get out of it so I'd better change the subject" moments?