Hegseth to Return Memorial Biden Tore Down in Arlington National Cemetery

A New Dawn · 2025-08-08T08:53:46-0500

essentialsaltes said:
Except there are no "Nie wieder" signs in front of the monument sanitizing the institution of slavery.

Again, false equivalence suggesting that replacing a statue in a memorial garden suggests that that means anyone wants to go back to that time or remember it with fondness. Since all that was perpetrated by the left, is that how you feel since you are projecting it onto the right? WE were the party that ended slavery.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-08-08T08:54:41-0500

A New Dawn said:
So the people in the town where your husband still own slaves and beat them? Or you heard them saying they want to go back to owning slaves? Or they were high-fiving all those people who did the nasty stuff? I’m confused.

Or you are suggesting that just because they liked the mascot of the school they went to that that means they were glorifying slavery? Because unless they were actively promoting slavery, I’d say you are reading waaay too much into it.

They want to honor those who fought for slavery. Is that too much?

A New Dawn · 2025-08-08T08:55:52-0500

Akita Suggagaki said:
They want to honor those who fought for slavery. Is that too much?

Since she didn’t post anything to support that opinion she was expressing, that is your own personal opinion that likely doesn’t bear itself out in truth.

Desk trauma · 2025-08-08T09:03:15-0500

A New Dawn said:
Again, false equivalence suggesting that replacing a statue in a memorial garden

Military cemetery. Arlington is a US military cemetery and that monument is in honor of people who fought against the US.

A New Dawn · 2025-08-08T09:12:56-0500

Desk trauma said:
Military cemetery. Arlington is a US military cemetery and that monument is in honor of people who fought against the US.

According to the position of the United States of America, the south continued to be part of our country, even through their incorrect position on this matter. And it is only your OPINION that is to honor them.

Hans Blaster · 2025-08-08T09:14:57-0500

A New Dawn said:
According to the position of the United States of America, the south continued to be part of our country, even through their incorrect position on this matter.

The so-called "confederate" states were in rebellion.

A New Dawn said:
And it is only your OPINION that is to honor them.

That's exactly what the "confederate monument" erected by the "united daughters of the confederacy" was intended to do -- honor the rebel traitors who made war against the United States.

durangodawood · 2025-08-08T09:17:06-0500

A New Dawn said:
According to the position of the United States of America, the south continued to be part of our country, even through their incorrect position on this matter. And it is only your OPINION that is to honor them.

People of the south have fought for the USA with honor and should receive honor. But not for that fight which was against the USA and against liberty.

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-08T09:17:09-0500

Hans Blaster said:
Do we need explain Civil Rights Era party shift again?

You can, it still will not make the debunked liberal myth true. It if it bring you joy, run with it.

Hans Blaster said:
Start by not honoring traitors.

Seems you know more than the President and Congress at the time. Too bad you don’t have a Time Machine and go back and inform them.

essentialsaltes · 2025-08-08T09:17:21-0500

A New Dawn said:
Again, false equivalence

You're the one who falsely suggested a memorial with a warning outside to "don't do this again" was equivalent to a memorial without such a warning.

Hans Blaster · 2025-08-08T09:20:54-0500

Always in His Presence said:
You can, it still will not make the debunked liberal myth true. It if it bring you joy, run with it.

It is literal history. Here is the short version:

White southerners (segregationists): Dem -> GOP
Black voters (where permitted): GOP -> Dem

Always in His Presence said:
Seems you know more than the President and Congress at the time. Too bad you don’t have a Time Machine and go back and inform them.

The President was one of the most racists of all time: WW. He also screened and praised the confederate revanchist movie "Birth of a Nation" which kicked off the second rising of the Klan.

That is also history.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-08-08T09:31:43-0500

A New Dawn said:
Since she didn’t post anything to support that opinion she was expressing, that is your own personal opinion that likely doesn’t bear itself out in truth.

I am not referring to Fantine but to the replacement of the monument.

Desk trauma · 2025-08-08T09:32:11-0500

A New Dawn said:
According to the position of the United States of America, the south continued to be part of our country, even through their incorrect position on this matter.

And? The dead being honored took up arms against the US regardless of the legal status of their claims.

A New Dawn said:
And it is only your OPINION that is to honor them.

The participation trophy isn’t for confederates? Who then is it for?

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-08-08T09:36:33-0500

Always in His Presence said:
Hegseth* to Return Memorial Biden Tore Down in Arlington National Cemetery

It’s official — the Biden administration’s historic eraser just hit a major snag.

In a move that’s already got progressives clutching their pearls and composing angry Twitter threads, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced that the Confederate Memorial — yep, that one — is heading back to Arlington National Cemetery.

The very same monument that was yanked out of the ground under Biden’s watch, boxed up like unwanted furniture, and banished to a Defense Department storage facility in Virginia? Yeah, it’s coming home. And not quietly, either.

You probably remember the removal last December. Tucked neatly between headlines about inflation, border chaos, and the latest round of DEI appointments, the Pentagon quietly took down the Reconciliation Monument — a 109-year-old sculpture commissioned in an era of healing, built by Moses Ezekiel, a Jewish-American Civil War veteran who also happened to be buried nearby.

No debate. No vote. Just poof — gone.

Why? Because the monument dared to acknowledge that, after the bloodiest war in American history, some people believed in moving forward. Because it honored Confederate dead not as heroes, but as fellow Americans buried on U.S. soil. Because it referenced reconciliation — something that apparently doesn’t fit in today’s progressive glossary.

This was not a monument celebrating slavery, or glorifying rebellion. This was a tribute to lives lost. A monument built at the direct approval of a future U.S. president — William Howard Taft — placed beside the graves of over 400 Confederate soldiers, meant to symbolize national healing.

*The reports of Hegseth's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

"This is about a battle for how America remembers its past — and who gets to control that narrative."

That is true. And this administration is exploring their power for all they can.

"This was not a monument celebrating slavery, or glorifying rebellion. This was a tribute to lives lost. A monument built at the direct approval of a future U.S. president — William Howard Taft — placed beside the graves of over 400 Confederate soldiers, meant to symbolize national healing. The kind of healing we now seem incapable of."

Placed beside the graves of Confederate soldiers it pays" tribute" to their lives lost in the fight for slavery.

How does that bring healing?

If we are now incapable of healing it is because of moves like this that do keep the wounds open.

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-08T09:41:29-0500

Hans Blaster said:
It is literal history. Here is the short version:

White southerners (segregationists): Dem -> GOP
Black voters (where permitted): GOP -> Dem

Yeah, that is the long debunked myth.

Hans Blaster said:
The President was one of the most racists of all time: WW. He also screened and praised the confederate revanchist movie "Birth of a Nation" which kicked off the second rising of the Klan.

That is also history.

And the Klan was self identified as the militant arm of the Democic Party

That is history also.

A New Dawn · 2025-08-08T09:50:37-0500

Hans Blaster said:
Do we need explain Civil Rights Era party shift again?

Start by not honoring traitors.

That is just a story your side made up to suggest that they ever supported the blacks. YOUR side is STILL fighting to keep the blacks subservient.

Slavery
Jim Crow
KKK
LBJ’s great society, which only serves to keep the blacks in poverty, perpetuating reliance on the government that has no intention of creating programs that actually lift them out of poverty and government reliance, hence making them slaves to the left forever (or so they think). Hence Biden’s statement to them about not being black if they vote for Trump.

Always in His Presence · 2025-08-08T09:57:39-0500

GoldenBoy89 said:
Because we change presidents by the season. The decision to keep or tear down the statues should be with the local people

Biden didn’t do that. I wonder why?

GoldenBoy89 said:
Because he’s terribly unpopular and this only pushes more division. Do you want unity or do you just want things your way?

No, it was a mandamus act on the part of the President and Congress. It should stay that way.

Hans Blaster · 2025-08-08T10:00:43-0500

Always in His Presence said:
Yeah, that is the long debunked myth.

The incoherent "historical" ramblings of D'nesh D'sousa do not constitute a "debunking".

Let's be clear, the two things I listed are *clearly* known in the actual voting data.

White southerners now vote strongly with the GOP.
Black voters now vote strongly with the Dems.

Both are opposite of the pattern prior to the 1960s.

These are *basic* facts of US political history.

Always in His Presence said:
And the Klan was self identified as the militant arm of the Democic Party

That is history also.

In some places it was effectively so, but not all. In Indiana where the Klan was among the strongest in the whole country, it backed the GOP including the "Klan legislature".

The second klan was against Catholics, Jews, immigrants, and Blacks. In the south, where their were few Catholics, Jews, or immigrants that ire was focused on Blacks and aligned to the southern Democrats. Elsewhere they were more aligned with the GOP especially given that those other groups were typically (but not always) associated with the Democrats.

A New Dawn · 2025-08-08T10:01:05-0500

essentialsaltes said:
You're the one who falsely suggested a memorial with a warning outside to "don't do this again" was equivalent to a memorial without such a warning.

Gotta love the fake mind-reading capabilities of the left. It’s great that they can see into your mind and pull out precisely what you aren’t thinking.

If someone is NOT suggesting we go back to that day and time, then they aren’t suggesting it. Link me to a video where Pete Hegseth is suggesting we start up slavery again, then I might believe you.

But it’s interesting to note that while it says “Never Again” on the entrance to the concentration camps AND Santayana’s sentiment affirming that education about history, that it will repeat itself unless special care is taken to make sure it doesn’t, is posted just outside the gates, history is, indeed, repeating itself and the left here is complicit. The cry for the Jews to be exterminated is sounding across the world and many of you here are raising your voice for the same thing. Disgusting. So don’t even bother coming at me for saying you shouldn’t cancel historical events, because by doing so, you are participating in their renewal.

Hans Blaster · 2025-08-08T10:02:50-0500

A New Dawn said:
That is just a story your side made up to suggest that they ever supported the blacks. YOUR side is STILL fighting to keep the blacks subservient.

Do you mean "liberals"? That is my "side". (I now consider myself a Democrat, but that is something that happened for me this year.)

A New Dawn said:
Slavery
Jim Crow
KKK

All things liberals have opposed.

A New Dawn said:
LBJ’s great society, which only serves to keep the blacks in poverty, perpetuating reliance on the government that has no intention of creating programs that actually lift them out of poverty and government reliance, hence making them slaves to the left forever (or so they think).

This is some weird GOP talking point/fantasy. It has no connection to reality.

essentialsaltes · 2025-08-08T10:08:14-0500

As for what the monument meant to the UDC that erected it, the History of the Arlington Confederate Monument, published by the UDC shortly after it was put in place, should be considered definitive.

[In 1898, President McKinley suggested in a speech that Confederate soldiers be interred in Arlington. [A few UDC objected to having their ancestors' remains planted alongside Yankees, but ultimately this was done.]

After the Confederate section had been completed, with a mound in the center for a monument, the monument be- came a certainty.

[Speech at the laying of the cornerstone]

"It is to these soldiers that we are to erect this monument
the rank and file of the Confederate armies—the men whose
courage and devotion lifted Robert E. Lee, Albert Sidney
Johnston, Joseph E. Johnston and Stonewall Jackson higher
and higher till they wrote their names among the stars.

"The memorial is being constructed on his own design at Rome,Italy,bythegreatartist.SirMosesEzekiel. Thechief figure is that of a woman, representing the South; her ex- tended left hand holds a wreath of laurel with which to crown the Confederate dead

The 'reconciliation' is that Arlington allowed the Confederates in. The monument itself is one to the Southern dead alone. However, it came with a side order of revisionist history and racial caricature, which is why it was decided it should be removed.

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