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Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

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Why ask that? The point of my post is that this whole thread is about the shape of the earth, and you originally used Martin Luther (you called him "Luther King" to start with) as and example of someone who believes the earth is flat. You were answering Phil G who had said, "People in the Middle Ages id not believe the earth was flat." You wrote: "Yes they did, why do think the Vatican wanted Copernicus's theories so much from him ? And why do you think that Luther King (you meant Martin Luther) fought so hardly against them? You didn't cite Luther as an example of someone who believed the sun orbits the earth.
And here you have a clear example of how she deflects and distracts from having to answer questions that are difficult for her. Switch to something else and it will derail the line of questioning....or so she seems to think.
 
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@Apple Sky lost all credibility, in my eyes

Am I bothered ?

Exactly. Apple has single-handedly destroyed her own credibility on these threads.

Am I bothered ?

Dean Odle also said something like, "let's go to Antarctica to find the truth. If there is a 24 hour sun, the earth's a globe".
When he was shown the truth, he immediately denounced the whole expedition as fake

That's b/c it was & you all refuse to believe this, even when I post videos of evidence for this.
 
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Am I bothered ?



Am I bothered ?
You should be.
You said that promoting Flat Earth was your God-given mission.
You are failing - indeed, have failed - because we can't trust the integrity of the messenger.
Actions speak louder than words - how many people remember now what Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris or Gary Glitter may have said or stood for? They only remember their crimes. And no, I am NOT saying that you are a child abuser, or anything of the kind. I'm saying that all your many posts which promoted a Flat Earth are thrown into doubt (if anyone ever took them seriously anyway), because you made a public confession and vow to God on a Christian forum and then went back on it.

You may care nothing that we don't trust, or believe, you.
You should grieve because you publicly vowed to ask for God's help, then ignored that. Furthermore you reverted to calling his children - i.e the Christian astronauts who walked on the moon - liars.

And all you can say about mocking God is "am I bothered?"
 
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That's b/c it was & you all refuse to believe this, even when I post videos of evidence for this.
Just as you refuse to believe that Dean himself said, in his own words, "let's go to Antarctica to find out the truth, if there is a 24 hour sun, the earth's a globe." Even when you had video proof of his interview, you still wouldn't believe it.
Dean denied that a 24 hour sun exists, even though he wouldn't go to Antarctica to see for himself.
 
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Just as you refuse to believe that Dean himself said, in his own words, "let's go to Antarctica to find out the truth, if there is a 24 hour sun, the earth's a globe.

He didn't go because he knew there wasn't a 24 hour sun in Antarctica & probably knew that it was a scam for them to make money, personally I'm glad he didn't take up the offer as I would of hated to see him mixed up with such a load of actors & artists.
 
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He didn't go because he knew there wasn't a 24 hour sun in Antarctica & probably knew that it was a scam for them to make money, personally I'm glad he didn't take up the offer as I would of hated to see him mixed up with such a load of actors & artists.
No - he did have a valid reason for not going, which even Pastor Will accepted. You were just trying to read his mind and put thoughts into his head that probably weren't even there.
And how would they have made money? Do you know how much it cost Will to buy all those tickets to Antarctica, how much he paid for tents, food, drink etc?

Valid reason or not, Dean had the chance to see for himself and didn't/couldn't take it.
 
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He didn't go because he knew there wasn't a 24 hour sun in Antarctica & probably knew that it was a scam for them to make money, personally I'm glad he didn't take up the offer as I would of hated to see him mixed up with such a load of actors & artists.
But if he is so certain that the earth is flat, why did he not go? You say that the whole thing was a scam, but surely, if he had gone, he would have been in a far stronger position to expose the scam, if it was a scam. The situation now is that he didn't go, so he is not an eye-witness of whether or not there was a 24-hour sun in Antarctica. Have you got any evidence to back up your claim that the people who did go, all of them, were involved in a scam for them to make money, and were "a load of actors & artists?"
 
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And how would they have made money?

It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA, it was all done on a green screen which would have cost a small fortune & I bet they were all paid handsomely for filming it. You see NASA has a lot to lose if the truth ever got out & hmm, how convenient for them that Dean didn't go else their plans would have been foiled. They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.
 
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But if he is so certain that the earth is flat, why did he not go? You say that the whole thing was a scam, but surely, if he had gone, he would have been in a far stronger position to expose the scam, if it was a scam.

See post above.
 
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Am I bothered ?
Your Christian witness is shot. You should be bothered.
That's b/c it was & you all refuse to believe this, even when I post videos of evidence for this.
Every video you've posted has been nonsense, often demonstrating the opposite of what they set out to prove.
 
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It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA, it was all done on a green screen which would have cost a small fortune & I bet they were all paid handsomely for filming it. You see NASA has a lot to lose if the truth ever got out & hmm, how convenient for them that Dean didn't go else their plans would have been foiled. They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.
But as usual, you just make the statement. "It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA," with no evidence whatsoever. Also, I don't understand what you last sentence means: "They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value." What did they have to ask Dean?
 
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Am I bothered ?
Being a Christian, you should be. Otherwise you bring God’s reputation into disrepute.
That's b/c it was & you all refuse to believe this, even when I post videos of evidence for this.
It’s not a question of refusing to believe it. That’s your MO when it comes to clear evidence for a globe earth.

But denouncing a whole expedition as fake when there were multiple eyewitnesses, including a number of people who were there but had nothing to do with TFE, is either stupidity beyond stupidity or simply dishonest.
 
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He didn't go because he knew there wasn't a 24 hour sun in Antarctica & probably knew that it was a scam for them to make money, personally I'm glad he didn't take up the offer as I would of hated to see him mixed up with such a load of actors & artists.
If he wanted call it a scam, all he had to do was go and expose the scam. But instead he didn’t go but decided to just accuse and demonstrate his small mindedness.
 
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It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA, it was all done on a green screen which would have cost a small fortune & I bet they were all paid handsomely for filming it. You see NASA has a lot to lose if the truth ever got out & hmm, how convenient for them that Dean didn't go else their plans would have been foiled. They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.
Proof please, or your accusations are just slander, which does not come from God, but comes from the “accuser”.
 
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It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA, it was all done on a green screen which would have cost a small fortune & I bet they were all paid handsomely for filming it. You see NASA has a lot to lose if the truth ever got out & hmm, how convenient for them that Dean didn't go else their plans would have been foiled. They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.
You have no idea how utterly unhinged you sound. You do realise they did a couple of simultaneous live streams in which they filmed each other in their live streams which made using a green screen impossible. They tried to think of every stupid argument the flat earthers would make to try and falsify the expedition and worked out things they could do that would prove those claims impossible.
 
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And now @Apple Sky why don’t you explain your own observation, you know the one that you can’t accuse anybody of faking or lying about, the one about the sun and moon appearing bigger at sunrise and moonrise.

This is not possible on a flat earth, but you keep trying to wriggle out of it. You’re like somebody blindfolded trying to get out of a dark room which has no way out.

So explain it in the context of flat earth. You observed it, you posted on this thread about it in the context of defending flat earth, so explain how it’s possible. Or else admit it falsifies flat earth.

Oh…and you won’t get help from your flattie friends because they know full well that it falsifies flat earth and won’t go near it. The problem for you is you can’t claim it was fake to get out of it. It’s a trap of your own making and you’ve fallen right into it.
 
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It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA,
It was organised, and paid for, by a Christian Pastor - though given your habit of calling Christians, "liars" you probably don't believe him either.
it was all done on a green screen
Evidence?
I bet they were all paid handsomely for filming it.
You "bet" they were.
Do you know, and what's your address so that I can come and collect my winnings?
You see NASA has a lot to lose if the truth ever got out
Rubbish.
i) you have no evidence, ii) you have previously said that NASA are liars and untrustworthy, and now you're sticking up fr them.

how convenient for them that Dean didn't go else their plans would have been foiled.
Other Flat Earthers went and saw the 24 hour sun - some of whom have had the humility to say that they were wrong about the 24 hour sun ad needed to think again. They may still not accept a globe earth, but they know what they saw.
They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.
Rubbish.

A Christian Pastor organised the Antarctic trip, not NASA.
The trip was part of a project called the Final Experiment organized by Will Duffy, a pastor from Colorado
The expedition, which took three years of preparation, was organized by Will Duffy, an American Christian pastor
The Final Experiment (or TFE) is an endeavor created by Will Duffy to end the debate by bringing flat earthers and globers together to collaborate on a single experiment with an agreed-upon interpretation

Globe earthers and flat earthers head to Antarctica to settle reality​

A U.S. pastor is sponsoring a trip to give participants conclusive evidence

 
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They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.
i) "they" had no idea that Dean would turn down the invitation. ii) If Dean thought that going to Antarctica would in some way prove NASA wrong, he would have gone.
 
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