Obama referred to DOJ for criminal charges

DaisyDay · Thursday at 7:52 AM

Always in His Presence said:
Confirmed thru AI:

Yes, according to multiple reports, FBI Director Kash Patel discovered thousands of sensitive documents related to the Trump-Russia probe in “burn bags” within a secret room at FBI headquarters. These burn bags, used for destroying classified or higher-level documents, contained items including the classified annex to former Special Counsel John Durham’s final report. The discovery was first reported by Fox News Digital on July 30, 2025, and corroborated by sources like Daily Mail, Times of India, and others.

Trying to destroy evidence.

Who was trying to destroy evidence? What stopped them?

Do the "multiple reports" stem from the same source?

iluvatar5150 · Thursday at 7:56 AM

Always in His Presence said:
Secret room' in FBI contains 'burn bags' with sensitive Trump-Russia probe docs: report
WASHINGTON (TNND) — Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director Kash Patel reportedly found "burn bags" that were filled with thousands of classified documents connected to the Trump-Russia probe.

Yes, we all read that. It adds nothing to the burn bag story.

I do find it interesting, though, that you seem to be, once again, okay with quoting anonymous sources.

iluvatar5150 · Thursday at 7:57 AM

DaisyDay said:
Who was trying to destroy evidence? What stopped them?

Do the "multiple reports" stem from the same source?

And what does “confirmed through AI” mean? Are people unable to read and comprehend articles for themselves now?

DaisyDay · Thursday at 8:05 AM

iluvatar5150 said:
And what does “confirmed through AI” mean? Are people unable to read and comprehend articles for themselves now?

I think what was meant is that the AI search engine found multiple instances and that the wording of the rest of the post is not original to him?

iluvatar5150 · Thursday at 8:10 AM

DaisyDay said:
I think what was meant is that the AI search engine found multiple instances and that the wording of the rest of the post is not original to him?

Yeah, I know what it means in terms of how the text was generated. I'm more asking about why it's being presented here. 1.) We know these LLM's aren't especially accurate and 2.) are posters incapable of reading and commenting on the material themselves.

PatrickTate · Thursday at 8:17 AM

Always in His Presence said:
Secret room' in FBI contains 'burn bags' with sensitive Trump-Russia probe docs: report
WASHINGTON (TNND) — Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director Kash Patel reportedly found "burn bags" that were filled with thousands of classified documents connected to the Trump-Russia probe.

Wow!!!!!

GoldenBoy89 · Thursday at 8:30 AM

ozso said:
The deputy director of the FBI is just some conspiracy theorist?

Yes.

NxNW · Thursday at 8:31 AM

Postvieww said:
You have no real concept of what Obama actually did but I believe very soon you will.

He investigated the criminals in the Trump organization. We know they're guilty because they admitted it.

NxNW · Thursday at 8:34 AM

Oompa Loompa said:
Can you explain why you think Trump is creating a conspiracy against Obama after a lot of evidence has been provided that suggests what Trump is saying is true?

No evidence has been provided against Obama. No charges have been filed. On the other hand, dozens of Trump conspirators were convicted and admitted guilt.

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 8:35 AM

iluvatar5150 said:
It’s pretty silly to assume that this is an attempt to destroy evidence.

Sensitive document on a case being currently investigated found in a burn bag and you think it isn’t an attempt to destroy evidence.

iluvatar5150 said:
Unless these documents were hand-written, then they were created and printed from a computer; and if they were produced on a computer, then they were waaaaay-more-than-likely retained on a server somewhere because of rules regarding document retention. And if they’re retained on a server, then all the burn bags are for is the destruction of the hard copies, which is an entirely normal process for any organization that has hard copies of sensitive documents floating around.

Pictured a server, actually a series of servers that contain terabytes of terabytes of information all encrypted files all different locations. Tell me how you’re gonna find 100 documents within that system?

It’s not like going into your system and setting up saying pull all my word files that have to do with Russian collusion.

It would be like covering the city of New York City 2 feet deep in quarters and telling someone go out and find the right quarter but we’re not gonna tell you what year it is.

iluvatar5150 said:
When I worked as a lowly grunt at Big Defense Contractor, every office had at least one (often multiple) full-sized trash cans, padlocked shut with a mail slot in the top, for disposing of these sensitive documents. Every so often, Iron Mountain would come through and collect them to be destroyed. I assumed they were shredded, but I suppose it’s possible they were burned.

When I worked in the military for counterespionage, those burn bags were changed daily so they didn’t sit around

iluvatar5150 said:
Now, if a burn bag sat around for years, that might be a violation of a document handling policy, but in the other direction- they probably should’ve been destroyed long ago.

Again, I’ll ask you you honestly think they sit around for years in a burn bag waiting to be burnt? Really?

NxNW · Thursday at 8:39 AM

Always in His Presence said:
Secret room' in FBI contains 'burn bags' with sensitive Trump-Russia probe docs: report
WASHINGTON (TNND) — Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director Kash Patel reportedly found "burn bags" that were filled with thousands of classified documents connected to the Trump-Russia probe.

That's how sensitive paperwork is supposed to be destroyed.

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 8:41 AM

NxNW said:
That's how sensitive paperwork is supposed to be destroyed.

Well golly G I thought that they were putting burn bags to be preserved.

It’s an active investigation and evidence in that investigation is in a burn bag getting ready to be destroyed.

NxNW · Thursday at 8:42 AM

Always in His Presence said:
Sensitive document on a case being currently investigated

The case is over. Trump criminals were convicted. Burn bags are how you dispose of sensitive materials.

Always in His Presence said:
Again, I’ll ask you you honestly think they sit around for years in a burn bag waiting to be burnt? Really?

Somebody neglected to burn them. If somebody wanted to hide them, they wouldn't leave them laying around. To claim otherwise is silly.

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 9:30 AM

NxNW said:
The case is over. Trump criminals were convicted. Burn bags are how you dispose of sensitive materials.

I'm speaking of the investigation of Obama - try to keep up.

NxNW said:
Somebody neglected to burn them. If somebody wanted to hide them, they wouldn't leave them laying around. To claim otherwise is silly.

You believe they have been sitting in a secure area since 2017? Talk about silly.

NxNW · Thursday at 9:32 AM

Always in His Presence said:
I'm speaking of the investigation of Obama - try to keep up.

Burn bags were unrelated to that.

Always in His Presence said:
You believe they have been sitting in a secure area since 2017? Talk about silly.

You believe there was a case against Obama in 2017?

essentialsaltes · Thursday at 9:34 AM

I wonder who has recently been reviewing and releasing old documents about Obama.

NxNW · Thursday at 9:35 AM

Always in His Presence said:
It’s an active investigation and evidence in that investigation is in a burn bag getting ready to be destroyed.

Were the papers somehow sent back in time to 2017 by Biden? The "case" only dates to Trump's second term.

DaisyDay · Thursday at 9:37 AM

Always in His Presence said:
Pictured a server, actually a series of servers that contain terabytes of terabytes of information all encrypted files all different locations. Tell me how you’re gonna find 100 documents within that system?

Depends on how the files are stored and indexed. Presumably, anything required by law to kept for a set amount of time will have also been microfiched.

Always in His Presence said:
It’s not like going into your system and setting up saying pull all my word files that have to do with Russian collusion.

Are you just fishing around for any old thing with key words? Or are you looking at a specific time frame related to specific investigation?

Always in His Presence said:
It would be like covering the city of New York City 2 feet deep in quarters and telling someone go out and find the right quarter but we’re not gonna tell you what year it is.

No, it's not a bit like that - unless you're treating the entire system of databases like an LLM using AI - which would be kind of nuts.

BCP1928 · Thursday at 9:40 AM

How did an AI summary come to be regarded as such an oracle? It's nothing but a self-generating Wikipedia article.

DaisyDay · Thursday at 9:46 AM

essentialsaltes said:
I wonder who has recently been reviewing and releasing old documents about Obama.

Department of Justice, CIA Transmit Declassified Durham Documents to Senator Chuck Grassley

WASHINGTON – Today, the Department of Justice transmitted the declassified Appendix of the Durham Report to the Senate Judiciary Committee following collaboration with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). This transmission advances President Donald J. Trump’s directive for maximum transparency...

www.justice.gov

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