Does Jesus have the power to raise all dead humans from a decade ago?

PatrickTate · Tuesday at 6:33 PM

I believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected and glorified body has the technological capability to resurrect all of the dead who lived ten years ago.

I believe that Jesus can do this without even working up a sweat and then.....
I believe that Jesus has the power and technological capability to create a new time line that branches from that resurrection of all the dead from July 29, 2025 that will fit with every word in Ezekiel chapter thirty seven?!

I am going to put this discussion in Controversial Christian Theology because I have a great deal of respect for Christian Visionary Pastor Rick Joyner who was given some specific statements that got me thinking in this way with a greater clarity.

Rick Joyner..... "The Power of His Word

“You seek to know and walk in My power so that you can heal the sick and perform miracles, but you have not even begun to comprehend the power of My word. To resurrect all the dead who have ever lived on earth will not even cause Me to strain. I uphold all things by the power of My word. The creation exists because of My word, and it is held together by My word.

“Before the end, I will reveal My power on earth. Even so, the greatest power that I have ever revealed on the earth, or ever will, is still a very small demonstration of My power I do not reveal My power to cause men to believe in My power, but to cause men to believe in My love.

“If I had wanted to save the world with My power when I walked the earth, I could have moved mountains by pointing a finger Then all men would have bowed to Me, but not because they loved Me or loved the truth, but because they feared My power I do not want men to obey Me because they fear My power, but because they love Me and love the truth.

“If you do not know My love, then My power will corrupt you. I do not give you love so you can know My power, but I give you power so that you can know My love. The goal of your life must be love, not power Then I will give you power with which to love people. I will give you the power to heal the sick because you love them, and I love them, and I do not want them sick.

“So you must seek love first, and then faith. You cannot please Me without faith. But faith is not just the knowledge of My power, it is the knowledge of My love and the power of My love. Faith must first be exercised in order to receive more love. Seek faith to love more, and to do more with your love. Only when you seek the faith to love can I trust you with My power Faith works by love." [Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest].

Gregory Thompson · Tuesday at 6:35 PM

For some reason, God doesn't mess with time travel.

Though that would make an interesting TV show premise.

Gregory Thompson · Tuesday at 6:39 PM

Its like God can do anything, but because He is love - He does not.

PatrickTate · Tuesday at 7:36 PM

Gregory Thompson said:
For some reason, God doesn't mess with time travel.

Though that would make an interesting TV show premise.

You could be correct, I don't know for sure but after I heard the Bill Weise testimony of his twenty three minutes in hell I began to wonder if Bill Weise had seen himself in "the future' in another time line but then he is taken back to what would appear to be the past but armed with that vision of hell that he was shown he is no longer "lukewarm" but is on fire to teach as many people as he can about what he had been shown.

This idea is based on a very literal understanding of Ezekiel chapter thirty seven that is combined with Revelation chapters twenty and twenty one that I got while I was in The Worldwide Church of God.

Gregory Thompson · Tuesday at 7:46 PM

PatrickTate said:
You could be correct, I don't know for sure but after I heard the Bill Weise testimony of his twenty three minutes in hell I began to wonder if Bill Weise had seen himself in "the future' in another time line but then he is taken back to what would appear to be the past but armed with that vision of hell that he was shown he is no longer "lukewarm" but is on fire to teach as many people as he can about what he had been shown.

This idea is based on a very literal understanding of Ezekiel chapter thirty seven that is combined with Revelation chapters twenty and twenty one that I got while I was in The Worldwide Church of God.

I am reminded of how David lamented at the death of his rebellious son Absalom.

In a sense God could probably relate since He probably had the same reaction when Adam died in front of Him.

"If only I had died instead of you"

If God were into time travel, He probably would have used it instead of this long arduous process, instead of the flood, instead of destroying Sodom and Gomorrah etc.

My thoughts.

Gregory Thompson · Tuesday at 8:08 PM

One godly thing about the theme of time travel is man's subconscious desire to repent, to transform their lives, to change things for the better.

Though this is not how it works, understanding that this desire still exists deep within the subconscious of people - can sometimes lead the conversation to the gospel.

This subconscious desire is evidenced by the popularity of fiction with time travel in it.

PatrickTate · Tuesday at 9:43 PM

Gregory Thompson said:
I am reminded of how David lamented at the death of his rebellious son Absalom.

In a sense God could probably relate since He probably had the same reaction when Adam died in front of Him.

"If only I had died instead of you"

If God were into time travel, He probably would have used it instead of this long arduous process, instead of the flood, instead of destroying Sodom and Gomorrah etc.

My thoughts.

I like the way that you are viewing this but there is evidence that we do live in a Multiverse and time is not limited to being one straight line. Here are some quotations on String Theory that I believe lay the foundation for the explanation for this from Theoretical Physics.

It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
....

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."

...

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)

PatrickTate · Tuesday at 9:47 PM

Gregory Thompson said:
One godly thing about the theme of time travel is man's subconscious desire to repent, to transform their lives, to change things for the better.

Though this is not how it works, understanding that this desire still exists deep within the subconscious of people - can sometimes lead the conversation to the gospel.

This subconscious desire is evidenced by the popularity of fiction with time travel in it.

Yes, I do believe that the very likely witches and warlocks who are involved in BigMedia have been told by Satan to reveal some huge truths through movies. Just as the Prophet Balaam had two sons, [Janes and Jambres], who were able to replicate several of the miracles given to Moses so also there are some talented people who are involved in the occult. They have a genuine prophetic calling on their lives just as Balaam did but Balaam fell partly due to his greed, [or was it his fear of what the King might do to him]????

ViaCrucis · Tuesday at 10:47 PM

I need an adult. Or a translator.

Or a beer.

Too much internet for today.

-CryptoLutheran

BelieveItOarKnot · Wednesday at 4:49 AM

"I kill and I make alive." Deut. 32:39

Appears God has been in the business of raising the dead for quite some time already

Gregory Thompson · Wednesday at 5:52 AM

PatrickTate said:
I like the way that you are viewing this but there is evidence that we do live in a Multiverse and time is not limited to being one straight line. Here are some quotations on String Theory that I believe lay the foundation for the explanation for this from Theoretical Physics.

I've experienced the multiverse, but it's occult phenomena, it is not healthy for Christians interested in intimacy with the Holy Spirit.

Gregory Thompson · Wednesday at 5:55 AM

PatrickTate said:
Yes, I do believe that the very likely witches and warlocks who are involved in BigMedia have been told by Satan to reveal some huge truths through movies. Just as the Prophet Balaam had two sons, [Janes and Jambres], who were able to replicate several of the miracles given to Moses so also there are some talented people who are involved in the occult. They have a genuine prophetic calling on their lives just as Balaam did but Balaam fell partly due to his greed, [or was it his fear of what the King might do to him]????

Back in the time of Moses, whatever happened in the middle ages, hadn't happened yet. Whatever that thing was, it resulted in a lack of magic, miracles and general sense of connection to others.

It seems whatever conduit was used for this aspect of life for good or bad was corroded and no longer works properly.

These things may still happen such as miracles .. but seem underwhelming when compared to the text of the bible due to the corrosion.

PatrickTate · Wednesday at 3:23 PM

Gregory Thompson said:
Back in the time of Moses, whatever happened in the middle ages, hadn't happened yet. Whatever that thing was, it resulted in a lack of magic, miracles and general sense of connection to others.

It seems whatever conduit was used for this aspect of life for good or bad was corroded and no longer works properly.

These things may still happen such as miracles .. but seem underwhelming when compared to the text of the bible due to the corrosion.

If you will do a search for the ministry "Forty Four Hours in Heaven" you can read or listen to the testimony of Mr. Robert Marshall who flatlined or was brain dead for forty four hours and yet Jesus sent him back with a powerful message.

I have reason to believe that we are moving into the time of the Latter Harvest that is supposed to even surpass what the Apostles did.

What is the book 44 hours in heaven abou | 44 Hours In Heaven Ministries

With only one known case worldwide, Robert's story provides the world's first living testimony of a man who died and spent 44 hours in Heaven. He was taught by Jesus about Heaven and how to understand the Bible. Robert shares his entire experience in Heaven and with Jesus.

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

Question:

What is the book 44 Hours In Heaven About?

This is a true story and testimony from a man named Robert, who died three times on May 19th, 2024. He explains how he died by suffocating, drowning in his blood in his lungs, acute hypoxic respiratory failure, and cardiac arrest. The result was his suffering oxygen deprivation to his brain for a total of approximately 90 minutes and about his visits to Heaven each time he died.

Each time he died, he went to Heaven. The 1st time he went to Heaven was for 15 minutes; the 2nd time was for 17 minutes; and the 3rd time was for 43 hours and 28 minutes. In the book 44 Hours in Heaven, he shares what Heaven is like, the conversations he had with Jesus, and what he learned.

The following excerpt from chapter 10 in the book "44 Hours In Heaven" contains what Jesus commanded Robert to do.

Jesus said, "You will worship Me in truth and spirit, and you will do as I command you."

Jesus then told him what He would require him to do, “You will worship Me in Truth and Spirit, and you will do as I command you.”

“In doing so, you will share how and why you were given life again."

“You will share with anybody that I put in your path and will entertain any questions about what I shared and taught you from anybody who asks.”

Gregory Thompson · Wednesday at 4:45 PM

PatrickTate said:
If you will do a search for the ministry "Forty Four Hours in Heaven" you can read or listen to the testimony of Mr. Robert Marshall who flatlined or was brain dead for forty four hours and yet Jesus sent him back with a powerful message.

I have reason to believe that we are moving into the time of the Latter Harvest that is supposed to even surpass what the Apostles did.

What is the book 44 hours in heaven abou | 44 Hours In Heaven Ministries

With only one known case worldwide, Robert's story provides the world's first living testimony of a man who died and spent 44 hours in Heaven. He was taught by Jesus about Heaven and how to understand the Bible. Robert shares his entire experience in Heaven and with Jesus.

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

The thing is, the corrosion will only get worse over time. This why the elements of creation need to be melted down in the judgment. It will be wholly insuitable for habitation.

public hermit · Wednesday at 5:11 PM

ViaCrucis said:
I need an adult. Or a translator.

Or a beer.

Too much internet for today.

-CryptoLutheran

That was just the break I needed as I was reading.
^_^

PatrickTate said:
I believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected and glorified body has the technological capability to resurrect all of the dead who lived ten years ago.

Why so specific, i.e., ten years ago? When you say "technological" do you mean human developed technology?

PatrickTate · Thursday at 7:18 AM

public hermit said:
That was just the break I needed as I was reading.

Why so specific, i.e., ten years ago? When you say "technological" do you mean human developed technology?

I do believe that there may be a few comparisons between human developed technology with what Jesus as The Word has developed over infinite time in the past.

I have reason to believe that the human spirit or soul may have capabilities that to at least some degree can be compared with human memory and files within a computer memory package.

On that note I should give you one of the links to the full text of "The Final Quest" that has been allowed to be online.

Although Pastor Rick Joyner is merely human I believe that his book is so off the scale intelligent that I believe that he must have been given this visionary dream by the Holy Spirit???

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

64.71.77.248

public hermit · Thursday at 10:11 AM

PatrickTate said:
I do believe that there may be a few comparisons between human developed technology with what Jesus as The Word has developed over infinite time in the past.

I have reason to believe that the human spirit or soul may have capabilities that to at least some degree can be compared with human memory and files within a computer memory package.

On that note I should give you one of the links to the full text of "The Final Quest" that has been allowed to be online.

Although Pastor Rick Joyner is merely human I believe that his book is so off the scale intelligent that I believe that he must have been given this visionary dream by the Holy Spirit???

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

64.71.77.248

Okay, thank you. The general notion that human cognitive capabilities are comparable to computer capabilities has been around for some time. I can see that. The comparison between technology and the Word is new to me, though. I'm not sure I want to do a deep dive into Rick Joyner's account, but we'll see.

Jipsah · Thursday at 10:46 AM

PatrickTate said:
I believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected and glorified body has the technological capability to resurrect all of the dead who lived ten years ago.

"technological capability"? I'm sorry, but we're talking about God. He doesn't require "technology"; He spoke the universe into being, didn't He?

PatrickTate said:
I believe that Jesus can do this without even working up a sweat and then.....

Ya think?

PatrickTate said:
I believe that Jesus has the power and technological capability to create a new time line that branches from that resurrection of all the dead from July 29, 2025 that will fit with every word in Ezekiel chapter thirty seven?!

Uh, sure, if He was so inclined.

PatrickTate said:
I am going to put this discussion in Controversial Christian Theology because I have a great deal of respect for Christian Visionary Pastor Rick Joyner

Whoever he is...

PatrickTate said:
who was given some specific statements that got me thinking in this way with a greater clarity.

If it involves our Lord requiring "technology" to do anything He wants, and science fiction "time lines", then it sounds like rubbish.

Jipsah · Thursday at 10:53 AM

Gregory Thompson said:
For some reason, God doesn't mess with time travel.

In His case, it's does require travel. He's omnopresent, in all of space and time. Because He's likem ya know, God.

Gregory Thompson said:
Though that would make an interesting TV show premise.

Yeah, just imagine, a being who's omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. Totally new concept! :doh:

Jipsah · Thursday at 10:56 AM

ViaCrucis said:
I need an adult. Or a translator.

Or a beer.

Ditto.

First round's on me.

Does Jesus have the power to raise all dead humans from a decade ago?

Does Jesus have the power to resurrect all the dead from July 29, 2015 and spin off a new time line?

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Yes and this could also fit with every word in Ezekiel chapter thirty seven

Other answer, please be specific in a reply.

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