All great world-historic facts and personages appear twice. The first time as farce, the second time as travesty

essentialsaltes · Tuesday at 3:38 PM

This is a humorous meme, not meant to actually stereotype all guys, conservatives, or people scared of cities. Or conservative guys who are scared of cities.

This is a humorless rightwing pundit, opining about a mass shooting with 4 + shooter dead in NYC perpetrated by someone from out of state.

NxNW · Tuesday at 4:43 PM

I thought mass shootings belonged in Texas?

ThatRobGuy · Tuesday at 4:52 PM

Yeah, it's a mystery as to why so many rural/suburban people are hesitant about going to major cities

It's almost like people think there's something scary or "wrong" with being attacked by 5 people, and then having a man punch out their GF and leave her bleeding on the pavement.

White people are super fragile like that.

They say super racist things like
"Please stop hitting me"
"Stop calling my wife a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]"
and
"Just leave us alone and get outta here"

And then wonder why those 5 guys had to defend themselves by kicking him in the face multiple times while their friend recorded it while shouting "hell yeah, stomp his ass"

People are so weird like that.

essentialsaltes · Tuesday at 4:55 PM

NxNW said:
I thought mass shootings belonged in Texas?

I'm not sure they belong anywhere, but as other people roasting Kirk have pointed out, Phoenix AZ (where he lives) has twice the murder rate of NYC.

In fact, in 2022 Manhattan had less than half the murder rate of Phoenix (five killed per 100,000 in Manhattan versus a tragic 13 in Phoenix, Maricopa County’s largest city). 

d taylor · Tuesday at 5:09 PM

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If yo want to live where murders happen. Then you need to moved to the Ms Delta, big cities have nothing on this area.

ThatRobGuy · Tuesday at 5:19 PM

essentialsaltes said:
I'm not sure they belong anywhere, but as other people roasting Kirk have pointed out, Phoenix AZ (where he lives) has twice the murder rate of NYC.

In fact, in 2022 Manhattan had less than half the murder rate of Phoenix (five killed per 100,000 in Manhattan versus a tragic 13 in Phoenix, Maricopa County’s largest city). 

You mean the ritzy borough of NYC had fewer murders than Phoenix (which is a primary hub for transient drug and human trafficking for the Sinaloa cartel), I'm shocked.

Let the two populations and city governments trade geographic locations and I bet that would be an eye opener.

With regards to Charlie's statement, he's probably looking at it through the lens of "rich people goggles"

I'm assuming with his money, he's probably living in a swanky suburb of Phoenix and and not in "Phoenix proper"

Reminiscent of the yuppies here in Ohio who say "Cleveland's not so bad, not sure why it gets that reputation" while they're living in the gentrified Tremont district where the average condo is $400k+ and everyone there makes six figures.

I'm sure the neighborhood Charlie lives in is quite safe

ozso · Tuesday at 8:48 PM

New York has been considered dangerous way befor Charlie Kirk was born. Watch the 1970 movie The Out Of Towners.

Hans Blaster · Wednesday at 12:26 PM

ThatRobGuy said:
You mean the ritzy borough of NYC had fewer murders than Phoenix (which is a primary hub for transient drug and human trafficking for the Sinaloa cartel), I'm shocked.

A "ritzy borough"? Seriously?

Manhattan includes the neighborhoods of Hell's Kitchen, Alphabet City, Harlem (regular and Spanish), Five Points, Chinatown, etc. Not to mention several large public housing projects. For crying out loud several famous American TV crime dramas take place entirely within Manhattan (at least the police work), like Law and Order (classic) and NYPD Blue where they were also filmed. If you think what is portrayed on screen was "ritzy" then we have very different ideas about wealth.

Manhattan (New York County) is the 20th most populous county in the US and, by far, the smallest by area of the top 100.

Niels · 2025-08-01T10:12:08-0500

Hans Blaster said:
A "ritzy borough"? Seriously?

Manhattan includes the neighborhoods of Hell's Kitchen, Alphabet City, Harlem (regular and Spanish), Five Points, Chinatown, etc. Not to mention several large public housing projects. For crying out loud several famous American TV crime dramas take place entirely within Manhattan (at least the police work), like Law and Order (classic) and NYPD Blue where they were also filmed. If you think what is portrayed on screen was "ritzy" then we have very different ideas about wealth.

Manhattan (New York County) is the 20th most populous county in the US and, by far, the smallest by area of the top 100.

Rockefeller Center, Broadway, Julliard, Wall Street, Central Park, MOMA (The Museum of Modern Art), The American Museum of Natural History, The Hayden Planetarium, Times Square, the Empire State Building, etc. are also located in Manhattan. Although it has gone through periods of high crime, it's the most expensive and arguably ritziest borough of New York City.

Hans Blaster · 2025-08-01T10:23:09-0500

Niels said:
Rockefeller Center, Broadway, Julliard, Wall Street, Central Park, MOMA (The Museum of Modern Art), The American Museum of Natural History, The Hayden Planetarium, Times Square, the Empire State Building, etc. are also located in Manhattan. Although it has gone through periods of high crime, it's the most expensive and arguably ritziest borough of New York City.

Rob's error was to confuse low-crime "ritzy" neighborhoods with one of the most populated counties in the US (and I believe the densest populated county), yours is thinking a list containing office complexes, parks, cultural sites, a school, and a park are examples of how Manhattan is a "ritzy town". No one even lives in the places you mention.

The thread is literally about some nitwit being scared of Manhattan who presumably went to see things like those you just listed but lived in imagined fear of the people who live there.

Niels · 2025-08-01T12:15:01-0500

Hans Blaster said:
Rob's error was to confuse low-crime "ritzy" neighborhoods with one of the most populated counties in the US (and I believe the densest populated county), yours is thinking a list containing office complexes, parks, cultural sites, a school, and a park are examples of how Manhattan is a "ritzy town". No one even lives in the places you mention.

The thread is literally about some nitwit being scared of Manhattan who presumably went to see things like those you just listed but lived in imagined fear of the people who live there.

1,628,000 people live in Manhattan. And they are often well-heeled. Especially in Midtown, which is where most of the things I listed are. My list was a response to your list.

If some nitwit is afraid of the city, that's their problem. The "Conservative Guy Scared of Cities" costume is funny because it's true of a certain segment of the population, but New York conservatives tend to be a different breed. The kind that work on Wall Street and can afford the ritzy apartments.

I'm neither conservative nor a New Yorker, but I grew up nearby and have family members who live there.

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